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Intelligence Report: Orlando City vs. New York Red Bulls
Get some inside information on the New York Red Bulls ahead of their visit to Central Florida.
Congratulations on making it through the week, and now that you have, your reward is another Orlando City matchday right around the corner. This week sees the Lions welcome the New York Red Bulls into their den, as the good guys will try to make it two wins on the bounce.
A visit from the Red Bulls means I caught up with Mark Fishkin, of the always excellent Seeing Red podcast. Mark was gracious enough to help get us caught up on how the Red Bulls have looked in the 2024 season.
Emil Forsberg was the big off-season signing for the Red Bulls. It’s early, but how has he looked so far?
Mark Fishkin: To date, Forsberg has been as advertised: the veteran, serving as the coach on the field, leading the (mostly) young Red Bulls to a 3-1-1 start. In every conversation with the press, he talks about his desire to win. While off the field he appears to be enjoying himself, a story broke earlier in the week in London’s Daily Mail saying his wife has filed for divorce. How that will impact him going forward remains to be seen.
This is Sandro Schwarz’s first season in charge of the club. How does he want this team to play? Does it differ from what we saw last year under first Gerhard Struber and then Troy Lesesne?
MF: Schwarz has evolved RBNY into a more attractive team in 2024. While the press is always part of the mix, the new New York coach has showed a flexibility to play more of a possession style or even a counter-attacking style if the game state calls for it. Against Miami last week, a lethal counterattack was the key to the Red Bulls’ 4-nil shellacking of the Herons.
Again, its still quite early, but what do you believe the expectations should be for the Red Bulls this season?
MF: The playoffs are a given with the Red Bulls, who last missed the postseason in 2009. However, given this unexpected start, a top-four finish in the East is the marker…for now.
Are there any players who will be unavailable for selection due to injury, suspension, etc.? What is your projected starting lineup and score prediction?
MF: Assuming all five Red Bulls’ starters come back from international duty healthy, we’re looking at:
Carlos Coronel; John Tolkin, Noah Eile, Sean Nealis, Kyle Duncan; Frankie Amaya, Daniel Edelman, Emil Forsberg, Lewis Morgan; Elias Manoel, Dante Vanzeir.
Schwarz has the team set up in a 4-2-2-2 or 4-2-3-1.
Given the Red Bulls’ hot start, and Orlando’s struggles, a 2-2 draw or 2-1 New York win are surely possible.
Thank you to Mark for the insight into NYRB. Vamos Orlando!
Opinion
Three Questions on the Eve of Orlando City’s 2025 Preseason Camp
What are the most pressing concerns as camp is set to start?
The 2025 Major League Soccer season is fast approaching which still feels like a wild sentence to type as the 2024 Orlando City campaign finished just days before the holiday season swung into full gear. Nevertheless, the 2025 version of Orlando City will report for training camp Monday, and we will soon get a clearer picture of what the Lions will look like. Here are three thoughts on the club heading into training camp and beginning a new season.
Will Gallese Start the Year Strong?
During the 2024 year, goalkeeper Pedro Gallese made some uncharacteristic mistakes in the first few months of the campaign that Orlando City fans had not witnessed much throughout his time in the City Beautiful. Gallese allowed 24 goals over his first 15 regular-season matches, though he was by no means culpable on all of them. Over the final 14 games of the regular season, Gallese only allowed 14 goals and looked far more composed in the net, which reflected a stronger City defense overall. Some of his highlights later in the year include his heroic efforts on Charlotte penalty kicks in the MLS Cup playoffs and one of my favorite moments of the year, when he stuffed Josef Martinez’s attempt from the spot during a 4-1 drubbing of CF Montreal in Leagues Cup play.
The big question surrounding the Peruvian is, can the 35-year-old Gallese start the 2025 season in the same form in which he finished 2024?
It is unlikely the back line will change drastically in front of him and, at least for now, the central midfield looks the same, despite some internet reports of interest in Cesar Araujo from Uruguayan side Nacional. Last year’s start shows that chemistry isn’t always automatic from one season to the next. Orlando starts the 2025 MLS season with a winnable month of matches, as the Lions will face only two 2024 playoff teams in New York City FC and the New York Red Bulls over their first five matches. If Gallese is able to start the year in the form that he ended 2024, the Lions will be in every match, and if the offense does its part, Orlando should be near the top of the table come the end of March.
What Will Orlando City’s Depth Look Like?
Good teams win the games they are supposed to win with a healthy roster, while great teams find ways to not drop points when members of the starting 11 are out with injury or on international duty. Look no further than a few hours south for an example of what depth can provide for a squad that throughout much of the season was predicted to stumble when Lionel Messi left for international duty and then missed extended time with an injury. Instead, Inter Miami kept winning en route to setting the MLS regular-season points record. Orlando City enters 2025 more or less with an established roster. The starting lineup currently has a Facundo Torres-shaped hole in it, and the Uruguayan’s goals will need to be accounted for, but my main concern with the current makeup of the roster is quality depth.
Outside of the back line, which I feel has sufficient depth if everyone is healthy, the wingers and attacking midfield could use more depth. Starters Martin Ojeda and Ivan Angulo return, but who will join them in the starting 11? Nico Lodeiro and Luis Muriel would seem to be the leading candidates given the current roster, while Yutaro Tsukada and Shak Mohammed provide depth but little experience. Without any signings yet this off-season, it’s probably safe to say that group will be addressed during camp.
Up top, Orlando City will be without the services of USMNT striker Duncan McGuire for at least the first third of the season. Ramiro Enrique is the presumptive starter as camp opens, with Jack Lynn and Muriel as potential cover, but this group likely also needs a signing prior to opening day.
The club’s early season record may come down to how well depth and role players can integrate into matches, as bumps, bruises, and international duty can keep starters out at times in the first few months of the MLS season.
Where Will the Goals Come From?
Perhaps the largest question mark as camp opens is who will score goals to start the season. Torres and McGuire combined for 24 goals last season. The Lions have started slowly on offense the last few years, and Orlando players scored only four goals through the first six games last season. Those 24 lost goals feel like an astronomical number to make up, placing signficant pressure on Enrique, Angulo, and Designated Players Ojeda and Muriel to produce.
Some of that lost production must come from Muriel, who scored just five goals and added five assists during the 2025 regular season — much of that in the second half of the year. The reassuring part is that it seemed Muriel finally started to settle into the MLS style of soccer down the stretch of last season. The question remains though if he will be up to the task of carrying more weight in the scoring department.
The two most likely players to show an improvement in the scoring department would be Ojeda and Enrique. Ojeda was a difference maker in the second half of the 2024 season and finally looked like he felt comfortable both on the pitch and in his own boots. Enrique has a knack for scoring and can get into positions between defenders. If both players can increase their goals scored into double digits, Orlando City may be able to compensate for what it lost from the 2024 roster. But, again, there should be new arrivals, and hopefully they will be able to contribute in that area.
Those are what I see as the three largest looming questions as training camp is set to start in just hours. What questions are you most concerned with as the 2025 Lions begin to assemble? Let us know in the comments below and as always, vamos Orlando!
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Evaluating How Orlando City May Fill Its Open Designated Player Spot
An analysis of the history of the ages of Orlando City’s Designated Players (DP) and an evaluation of how Orlando City may fill their open DP spot.
Sometimes in order to admit to yourself that something is true you have to say the words out loud, or in the case of a website contributor, you have to write the words out, and so therefore I must disappointedly say the following: Facundo Torres will not play for Orlando City in 2025.
Sigh.
I guess there is a chance, however slight, that he could transfer back from Palmeiras, but as a mathematician, I would not advise anyone to place any bets on seeing Torres playing for the Lions this season. I would also advise you not to place any bets in general and to remember the quote from the legend Danny Ocean that “the house always wins, you play long enough and you never change the stakes and the house takes you.”
You did not come here for gambling advice, so we will dispense with that part of the quote, but I want to go a little deeper on the concept of changing the stakes. During the last three seasons, Orlando City has steadily improved from losing in the conference quarterfinals to losing in the conference semifinals to losing in the conference final. The Lions played in the Concacaf Champions Cup in 2023 and 2024 and won the U.S. Open Cup in 2022. As I wrote last week, Orlando is now one of leading soccer cities in the country, and that is because of the accomplishments of both Orlando City and the Orlando Pride.
Orlando City Head Coach Óscar Pareja has led the Lions to the playoffs in each of the past five seasons, and in doing so has raised the expectations for the club higher, as while the Lions are not considered one of the league’s glamor teams by MLS leadership, the performance on the field says that they should be. Their 71 MLS regular-season wins during this decade ranks second only to LAFC’s 75.
Club | MLS Regular-Season Wins: 2020-2025 |
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LAFC | 75 |
Orlando City | 71 |
Philadelphia Union | 71 |
Seattle Sounders | 70 |
Columbus Crew | 70 |
This brings us back to Torres and the decision that Orlando City’s leadership will need to make about how to replace him. His departure opens up a Designated Player spot, allowing the Lions free rein to bring in anyone they want, since there are no restrictions on salary. The question that I am sure that the front office is grappling with, however, is whether to use that spot on the 2025 version of Torres, a young rising star who they hope to sell in a few years for a profit, or go with an established player who is ready to come in now but may not be someone that the club can profit off of in the future.
The history of Orlando City and Designated Players is more the latter than the former, despite the club-record sale of Torres a few weeks ago. The club has had 15 Designated Players and 33 seasons from those players during its 10 seasons in MLS, and using the age of every player as of Feb. 1 during the year they were a Designated Player, this is how Orlando City has deployed that designation:
Age Range | Number of Seasons | % of Seasons |
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19-20 | 4 | 12.1% |
21-23 | 5 | 15.2% |
24-26 | 4 | 12.1% |
27-29 | 8 | 24.2% |
30+ | 12 | 36.4% |
Slightly more than 60% of those player-seasons have been played by players 27 years of age or older, headlined by Kaká, Mauricio Pereyra, and Nani, but at the same time, more than 25% of the seasons were by players in the “we project them to be a young rising star” age group of 19-23. Torres clearly showed that he was, but the other young Designated Players — Bryan Róchez, Carlos Rivas, and Josué Colmán — did not produce on the field or generate a major financial return when they departed the club. Rivas, at least, is enduring, as every time a shot is skied high over the net at home games, you can always count on hearing someone in the crowd shout out his name.
During the last three seasons, the club has skewed younger with regard to Designated Players, with the average ages being 26 in 2022 [Pereyra (31), Ercan Kara (26), Torres (21)]; 24 in 2023 [Kara (27), Martin Ojeda (24), Torres (22)]; and 27 in 2024 [Luis Muriel (32), Ojeda (25), Torres (23)]. Torres’ departure means that remaining Designated Players Muriel (33) and Ojeda (26) will average out at 29.5 years old, with Muriel’s window to generate a future transfer fee of any significance nearly shut and Ojeda’s closing, unless he makes a leap in 2025. Both players contributed to the club’s success on the field in 2024, but the front office is always trying to balance the business and the team’s performance, and with this third open Designated Player spot those in charge of personnel will show their hand on where they believe they need to focus.
The hard part for the front office is that, as of today, the team is bringing back every key player except for Torres from a team that has used a pretty consistent set of players for the past two seasons. This group is very familiar with Pareja’s style of play and expectations, and nine of the returning players played more than 3,600 (out of a possible 6,120) MLS regular-season minutes during the last two seasons.
This team is built to win now, and while the Lions have the personnel to replace Torres with existing players (move Ojeda to right wing while starting Nico Lodeiro or Muriel in the middle, starting Lodeiro or Muriel on the wing, start Duncan McGuire at striker and move Ramiro Enrique to the wing, etc.), with an open Designated Player spot and Torres’ transfer fee money sitting in an Inter&Co digital vault, I think the team should be looking for someone to come in directly into the starting 11 and aggressively make a play to win the title in 2025, joining the battle-hardened group of returning players, many of whom are in their prime right now.
There are rumors that a signing is imminent for a left-footed winger who likes to play on the right side of the field, but it would be using an MLS U22 Initiative spot and not a Designated Player spot. Rumo(u)rs are second-hand news and may end up only being dreams (some of you will see the chain connecting what I did there, others will tell me to go my own way…away), but those currently reporting on Orlando City’s negotiations for this winger, Fabrizio Romano and Tom Bogert, are well sourced, increasing the likelihood that the club is closing in on bringing in a player who is similar to the 2022 version of Torres — young, skilled, and someone who could bring the club a profit in the future.
This does not preclude the team from looking for a Designated Player who is also a wing player on the right side of the field, but it changes the calculus (and as all of you certainly remember from math class, calculus is all about change) for what the team may want to do with its third Designated Player spot, probably making a little more likely that that spot would be used on a more established (read: older) player — reports have already indicated a bid was made to Liga MX side Club America, which was rejected, for 26-year-old winger Alex Zendejas.
Orlando City, like most MLS clubs, has rarely used a Designated Player spot on a defender. Yoshimar Yotún is the closest case, but while he played left back for Peru and other clubs, for Orlando City he played primarily in the midfield. The team could look for an upgrade on the left wing, which could also involve moving Angulo to the right wing or dropping him into a competition for a right- or left-back spot, as a player with a similar profile to former right back Ruan. McGuire will be out for a few months to start the season, and so the club could bring in an elite striker to complement Enrique to fill the 90 minutes up top. OCSC could also go find a central attacking midfield Designated Player and move Ojeda back out to the wing.
Or…City could do none of these and take an existing player who makes more than the Designated Player amount ($683,750) and turn him into a Designated Player, saving salary cap money. It is not as exciting to do something like this, but one of the benefits of being a good team with youth and depth is that there are already players ready to take on some of the minutes made available by Torres’ departure. It is not always beneficial to add players just because you can, as players want to play and team chemistry can be just as important as the total top end talent on a roster.
Decisions like these in a league with a salary cap can make or break a team, especially a team with so many players returning from a successful season the year prior. Should the Lions acquire one player to slot right into Torres’ spot, and leave everyone else as is? Do they actually need a big shake-up and change at multiple positions, as while they were successful, they struggled to score late in the season, and came up short on the ultimate goal? I am excited by all of the possibilities, look forward to seeing the moves the team makes, and am thinking about how the Lions will line up in the season opener on Feb. 22.
Vamos Orlando!
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Previewing Luis Muriel’s Second Year in Purple
Orlando City needs more production from its Colombian striker in 2025, so what’s the best way to get it?
The 2025 season will be Luis Muriel’s second as an Orlando City player following a 2024 campaign that wasn’t bad but was uneven and marked by potential that ultimately went unfulfilled. With the Colombian striker still occupying a Designated Player slot, there’s a lot of questions about how he’s going to fit into the team.
With him occupying a precious DP slot and commanding the highest salary on the team by a comfortable margin, it’s essential that the Lions get maximum output from him on the field. What’s the best way to do that, though? With the departure of Facundo Torres and Muriel getting a full off-season and preseason under his belt, there are a few different ways to achieve that goal.
Striker
The obvious answer is the reason that he was brought to the City Beautiful in the first place — to play him at striker. Duncan McGuire likely won’t be available until sometime in April, meaning that Muriel will be duking it out in preseason with Ramrio Enrique (and to a lesser extent, Jack Lynn) for the right to start as the tip of Orlando City’s proverbial spear. He got some time there last year in the first few months of the season, but ultimately his production, or lack thereof, opened the door for McGuire, and later Enrique, to supplant him.
The most straightforward way to get him in the team is to get him scoring in the volume that he’s shown himself to be capable of. It wouldn’t require any alterations to the formation or moving players around to areas where they might not be comfortable. Orlando could try to go big for a winger with proven goal-scoring threat to help replace the Facundo Torres-sized hole on the right wing, Ivan Angulo can stay out left, Martin Ojeda retains his place at the 10, and things keep ticking along.
The big question is whether he can find the back of the net consistently enough to justify going this route, particularly when McGuire and Enrique have proven themselves to be capable of providing solid scoring output. However, if he shows better than Enrique and Lynn in preseason, this is probably the most likely route.
Winger
Another solution, and probably the one that would be second easiest, would be to deploy him at the winger spot vacated by the now-departed Torres. This would allow Enrique and McGuire to compete for the no.9 slot, while filling Torres’ place with someone who is capable of creating and producing goals for others at the same, if not higher, level, and it wouldn’t require any formation or positional shifts.
A downside is that the right-footed Muriel wouldn’t be inverting the way that Torres did, which would tweak some of the team’s tactics and patterns of play in the final third. Additionally, it would be gambling on Muriel improving his goal-scoring numbers despite being shifted out wide and presumably not having as many looks at goal.
In this scenario, the Lions likely aren’t going out and adding a third Designated Player, or if they are, it’s probably an attempt to upgrade over Angulo — something which just doesn’t seem super likely to me, given how ever-present he’s been in the lineup since joining the team. I also don’t know if I can see Luiz Muzzi and Co. standing pat with the current state of a roster that couldn’t win it all and then lost its best player.
No. 10
A different route would be to trot him out at the no.10 position, where he often found himself deployed when coming on as a substitute during the second half of the year. The advantages of this solution are that it would allow the Colombian to utilize his considerable passing range and ability on the ball while minimizing his need to contribute large amounts of goals. On the downside, it would require shifting Ojeda out of the central position that he occupied to such great effect during the second half of the 2024 season. While Muriel has played well in this position, I can’t see the decision-makers being willing to gamble on Ojeda regressing if moved out wide again.
Shadow Striker/Roving Playmaker
The final, and most intriguing (and complex) of the options would be to deploy him as a shadow striker/roaming playmaker as part of a front two. Muriel drops into the hole behind the striker and moves around, finding space just behind his fellow forward, popping up wherever the spaces are and making it difficult for teams to zero in on patterns of play.
Again, it would allow him to use his excellent passing and dribbling ability to create scoring chances for McGuire/Enrique, while still getting him some looks at goal. It’s also a position that he’s played at various times throughout his career, including last year, when we saw him partnered with McGuire in either a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. The two played well together during those games, and showed signs of a flourishing partnership that ultimately wasn’t pursued further as the team got more bodies healthy and Ojeda began to shine as the central player in the three-man attacking midfield.
The biggest problem would be finding a formation that gets Orlando’s best players on the field in their best positions. A 4-4-2 would allow a midfield of Ojeda, Angulo, Wilder Cartagena, and Cesar Araujo, but Ojeda would need to be out wide and we’ve already covered why that’s an issue. A 3-5-2 would also allow for those guys to be on the field, but then Dagur Dan Thorhallsson and Rafael Santos would likely be sacrificed, and Cartagena would move to center back while Nico Lodeiro slotted into the midfield in his place. OCSC is better when Cartagena and Araujo are partnering in the midfield, and I love having Santos’ crossing ability and DDT’s versatility on the field. For me, it would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.
An interesting solution could be trying a 4-2-2-2, with Santos, Robin Jansson, Rodrigo Schlegel/David Brekalo, and Thorhallson at the back, Araujo and Cartagena as the defensive midfielders, Angulo and Ojeda as the attacking midfielders, and Enrique/McGuire and Muriel up top, with Muriel operating as the shadow striker. To get the necessary width in attack, one of the fullbacks (presumably DDT) could invert into the midfield when in possession, and one of the defensive mids (likely Cartagena) would drift out wide while Ojeda plays centrally, where he operates best. The biggest issues here are that it would necessitate a lot of tactical variation from what the team is accustomed to, requires Thorhallsson to run his guts out, and is susceptible to getting torched on the counterattack. There’s a world where it could work, but I wouldn’t expect to see it.
At the end of the day, everyone’s lives are made easier if having a full off-season and preseason under his belt helps the Colombian DP find his shooting boots and he hits the ground running as the striker in Oscar Pareja’s preferred 4-2-3-1. Orlando adds firepower at right wing, Ojeda stays in the middle, and Muriel does what he was primarily signed to do — score goals. If that doesn’t happen, there are still ways to try to get him involved, but each solution comes with its own unique set of advantages and disadvantages to navigate. Either way, Muriel’s fit during the 2025 season is an intriguing storyline to watch as we build towards the start of the new campaign. Vamos Orlando!
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