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Staff Roundtable: Orlando City Tops New York City FC; Pride Prepare for Houston Dash

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The captain scored a brace to pull Orlando City ahead over New York City FC — can he replicate the magic against Montreal? What is the cause of Brek Shea’s poor run of form? The Pride couldn’t pull even with the Washington Spirit — can they remain in the playoff picture with a win over the Houston Dash?

Scott Crumbly, Meg Van Dyk and Logan Oliver discuss all this and more in this week’s edition of The Mane Land Roundtable.

Orlando City pulled out a 2-1 win over Jason Kreis’ former team, NYCFC, on the back of a brace from the captain. How important do you think this game was to Kreis’ new players?

Logan: There must have been a great pep talk leading up to the game. Both the midfield and defense played at a consistently high level all match, only allowing a goal on a rebound. It may have been a little bit because of Kreis’ history and a little because they needed a win to stay in the thick of the playoff race.

Meg: Before this match, Orlando had yet to win a game since July 31, despite having several draws. I think this win provided the players with more confidence going forward. It also ignited a fire in the players to keep this momentum going. With games against Montreal and Los Angeles coming it, it is important for players like Matias Perez Garcia, who are fairly new to the team, to gain minutes, building off one another. As the team grows more comfortable with each other, hopefully they will continue to get better and continuing winning.

Scott: Despite Kreis talking down the importance of the match, there has certainly been an underlying feeling of resentment towards his old club, so I think this one meant a little more to him than he let on. I’m not sure if it meant more to his new players beyond a huge three points towards their playoff efforts, but it’s definitely possible that they took a little extra motivation to get one in the name of revenge on their coach’s behalf. Whatever the case, three points are nice.

Brek Shea came on late in the match, was was largely ineffective in another appearance. Is there something Kreis can do to get more out of him? Is he uncomfortable on the right?

Meg: Brek Shea is one of the players who has been incredibly unreliable for Orlando. In his time with Orlando he has battled injuries, national team camps, and “road blocks” that have kept him from being beneficial to the team. In terms of what Kreis can do to somehow get more out of Shea, I’m not sure; a possible position move may do the trick, but as Shea gets older he is becoming less and less of a vital player to this team.

Scott: I’m not sure there’s a whole lot more Kreis can do other than giving Shea more minutes, but those are hard to come by. Shea doesn’t have much time to get into any kind of rhythm with these late appearances, but with the clear chemistry between attacking players like Kaká, Matías Pérez García, and Kevin Molino, Shea is understandably on the outside looking in.

Logan: It’s tough to call him uncomfortable on the right because he’s had some good showings there, including in Kreis’ first match. I think it’s best to chalk it up to poor form, but if it continues Brek will find himself on the outside of the match day squad looking in soon enough.

Didier Drogba was absent in the initial meeting. If he is to play in the upcoming match, what’s the best strategy to slow the star striker down?

Scott: Drogba certainly presents a problem if he’s present, but the good news is Orlando City has found what appears to be a solid center back pairing in José Aja and David Mateos – both of whom possess the size to challenge Drogba on aerial duels. Hopefully Aja and Mateos can challenge Drogba physically, and hopefully he doesn’t save one of his fantastic free kick finishes for the Lions. Didier has cooled a bit as the season has progressed, which is also good news for City, as he is sitting at 0.47 non-penalty goals per 90 minutes currently, a solid drop from his 0.68 mark at the All-Star break. (For reference, Cyle Larin is currently at 0.59 non-PK goals per 90.)

Logan: I’d like to see something akin to the formation we saw against NYCFC with Redding, Aja, and Mateos all starting. They did a great job stifling David Villa and NYCFC’s attack, which has been more potent this season.

Pride Time

The Pride couldn’t quite get a point against the Washington Spirit, failing to convert on chances they seemingly should have. Do you think it was a matter of the club getting back on the same page following the break, or the Spirit simply being the better team?

Meg: The Pride seemed to lack cohesion in the last game, Perhaps it was because Orlando players took more time to return to their team than the Spirit’s players, or maybe it is because the youth of the players that were on the field. The Pride needs more veteran players — players who have time to train together and understand each other’s tactics and movements. Unfortunately, until that happens, I don’t see the Pride getting much better, especially with the caliber of play around the rest of the NWSL.

Scott: A bit of both. Getting back into a groove isn’t easy after a break but at the same time, the Spirit are top of the table, having only allowed 14 goals this season, while only two teams have managed fewer goals scored than the Pride. There’s a 17-point gap between these two teams for a reason.

Logan: You can’t fault anyone for losing to the Spirit this season. I expected Portland to win the NWSL title this season with all of their quality additions, but it’s Washington who’s six points clear at the top of the table. It didn’t help that the Pride’s first choice back line was unavailable, but Orlando did well and it bodes well for the remainder of their season.

Orlando has more points than the Houston Dash on the year, but find themselves with a less flattering differential of -6 compared to -3. Finding themselves on the outside of the playoff bubble, how much of a threat are the Dash to the Pride’s playoff hopes?

Scott: Luckily for the Pride, they are 3-0 against Houston this season with a +4 goal differential in those matches, otherwise Orlando would certainly be trailing the Dash. With the Pride’s struggles vs. teams not from Houston, I think it would be foolish to say that the Dash isn’t a threat.

Logan: New forward Lisa De Vanna will hopefully help improve their goal differential, giving the Pride a great option off the bench. Even if she just relieves some pressure from Alex Morgan, I expect the Pride to be score more goals — at least enough to keep the Dash at bay.

Meg: With the Dash having Carli Lloyd back, coming off the disappointment of the Olympics, I see the Dash as being a serious threat to the Pride. They are continuing to improve while the Pride seem to be content with where they currently are.

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And this edition of the roundtable is adjourned. Sound off with your opinions below, and remember Orlando City B kicks off one hour before the Pride this Saturday.

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PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More

The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.

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Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.

We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote

This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.

OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.

Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.

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Here’s how No. 506 went down:

0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!

27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.

39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.

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PawedCast Episode 502: Galaxy Rewind, Ramiro Enrique Transfer News, OCB Defeats Crown Legacy, and More

Lions leave Leagues Cup empty handed, Ramiro Enrique could be on the move soon, OCB gets a vital win, and more

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I couldn’t tell you why this show is nearly an hour other than the fact that we are verbose. Orlando City crashed out of Leagues Cup with back-to-back losses in games that had a Concacaf Champions Cup berth on the line. The Lions did almost nothing in the first half against the LA Galaxy on the road, and threw Martin Ojeda’s second-half equalizer away just seven minutes after he scored it with a horrendous turnover in their defensive third.

We discuss Orlando City’s 2-1 road loss, which featured one of Pedro Gallese’s best-ever saves as a Lion, although it ultimately didn’t matter much, looked back at our score predictions, and made our selections for Man of the Match.

We also discussed Seattle’s 3-0 win over Inter Miami in the final and the shenanigans that the Herons pulled after losing.

Ramiro Enrique was not in uniform Sunday night in the wake of reports that he’s about to be sold for a reported $3 million to a Saudi team. Although the timing isn’t perfect, it would be a good return for the Argentine striker.

This week’s mailbagbox asked about ice cream, donuts, Carlos Mercado vs. Javier Otero, and more. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.

OCB picked up a much-needed three points with a home win over Crown Legacy at the death that nearly immediately became a draw at the even more death. Mercado was sensational in the match for the Young Lions and Thalles scored the timely goal to push the club over the playoff line for the time being. I nearly started to preview an OCB game that is more than a week ago, but the important thing is I stopped myself, otherwise the show would have been even longer.

The senior Lions are also off this week, so we’ll see you next week!

Be sure to rate and review our show wherever you get your podcasts. Remember, we’ll read any five-star reviews we get on Apple Podcasts on the next show.

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Here’s how No. 502 went down:

0:15 – Orlando City looked to be following the same script as in the win at LA back in March, but then coughed up the ball in a dangerous spot to one of the Galaxy’s best scorers.

29:36 – The mailbagbox is trying to make us fat(ter).

46:38 – OCB has put together two consecutive late wins as the Young Lions try to get back into playoff contention after several rough weeks.

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Announcement: Change to The Mane Land’s Approach to Live Updates on Social Media

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Here at The Mane Land, we were able to build a rather sizable following on social media early in our growth. We quickly surpassed a thousand followers while we were still a free independent WordPress site with just a few contributors posting about one new story per day. This helped us get the attention of SBNation, which we eventually joined.

When we joined SBNation’s roster of blogs, we quickly rose up the ranks to one of the most followed MLS team-specific accounts on Facebook and Twitter (especially the latter). We always had great engagement on Twitter, with mixed results on Facebook.

With all of that said, we take the relationship with our social media followers seriously, because our readers have helped our growth on those channels (and vice versa), and we know who our friends are. We’ve met a lot of our Twitter followers in person over the years, and we value those times we’ve spent with you.

All of this serves to preface that we’ve decided to change some things up, although it’s nothing too radical. Starting Friday, March 28, TML will no longer be live tweeting matches on Twitter (sorry, I’m still never going to call it X, because that’s dumb). We will also be reducing our already dwindling presence there. I want to emphasize that we are not deleting our account. We will continue to post new stories to the artist formerly known as Twitter. But that’s about all we’ll be doing there. This week’s OCB game will be the last match for which we’ll provide live updates on Twitter.

We will be moving all of our live game coverage to our Bluesky Social account.

Please note: This move should in no way be construed as a political one. There are several factors at play, and while some of our writers may not share political alignment with Twitter’s owner, that is not why I’ve chosen this course — with the support of the TML staff. If this was a political choice, we’d simply delete the account and quit using the platform entirely.

Once upon a time, Twitter used to drive a decent-ish (but, if I’m being honest, never great) amount of engagement to our website, which we could see in our analytics. It was also a place where we could engage with our followers, exchanging thoughts on the club and its players, and occasionally arguing a little bit about those topics.

Before you could simply buy a blue checkmark, Vox Media assisted us in getting vetted by the former ownership, which helped legitimize us as a reliable outlet covering Orlando City SC. That too helped us grow our follower base, but it all went away when the current owner decided to overpay for the platform and tried to monetize it by letting anyone buy a blue checkmark, flooding the non-checkmarked accounts with ads. That was the start of when we began seeing Twitter become less useful as a marketing tool for TML and when it started driving a lot less traffic to our website and podcasts.

Most of our post engagement on Twitter has dried up because of people leaving (or spending less time on) the platform. More likes and retweets are coming from bot accounts than ever before. Typically, we have been seeing a high percentage of post likes coming from obvious bot accounts. And it’s just not a pleasant place to be. There are far too many ads, and most of the “ads” we see in our feed aren’t advertising any service or product. They seem to be individual tweets boosted by…I don’t know, some algorithm, or maybe the account’s owner is actually paying for things like this to be boosted. Most, but not all, of those “ads” are political in nature, and many of the political ones feature easily disprovable lies.

But sometimes it’s random stuff like this:

When every fourth or fifth post is something like the above (or often something worse), it’s just not an enjoyable user experience. We’re not going to give the world’s richest man more money just to cleanse our timeline of it and have the old Twitter experience back (that’s the entire point of “premium,” to get us to pay to go ad free). That’s as valid a choice for a business model as any, I guess, but it’s not one we’re interested in boosting just to get things to go back to how they were.

Between the drop in engagement, the rise of unchecked bot activity, and the weirdness and frequency of the “ads,” it’s a place we’d like to spend less time. Again, we aren’t leaving. We’ll continue to let people on Twitter know when new stories drop. That’s always been our basic approach to Facebook, where we’ve never received a whole lot of engagement.

Bluesky Social, on the other hand, has been quite enjoyable in all the same ways Twitter used to be. With less than a third of the followers that we have on Twitter, our replies, likes, and reposts have been much higher on average over the past year, than those same posts on Twitter. Our podcast listeners submit far more questions there than on Twitter (but you can still ask on Twitter and we’ll answer them on the show). The Bluesky interface is slightly more clunky on desktop than Twitter (desktop is an important part of how I provide live updates during games), but it feels pretty much like Twitter used to. I have been trying to post on both Twitter and Bluesky for OCSC games, but doing both is problematic and more than a little stressful. By limiting live updates to Bluesky, it’ll make things easier for those of us doing this in our spare time for no real financial gain. I’m not asking the staff to start Bluesky accounts, but some of our writers already have them.

Our ask of you on this subject is…nothing. If you’re not on Bluesky, and you decide you don’t want or need another social media account, that’s a valid choice. If you want to join us on Bluesky, we’d love to see you. Our posts about our stories will be (and have been for some time) identical on both platforms (and on Facebook). The only change will be that we (mainly I) will spend more time on Bluesky, less on Twitter, and our live game coverage will be on Bluesky. You can still @ us on Twitter if you like. We may just be a bit less responsive.

Things change, especially technology and social media. Some of you remember MySpace. Or even AOL. It’s entirely possible that a future Twitter with better control of bots and ads may one day be worth egaging with more often again. That’s another reason for us not to delete the account.

At The Mane Land, our main reason for existence continues to be that we love telling the stories of our favorite MLS, NWSL, and MLS NEXT Pro soccer teams. That won’t change — even if the way we promote those stories does from time to time.

Feel free to reach out with any comments or questions you have. And, as always, thank you for your support over the last 11 years.

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