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Is the 4-3-3 the Way Forward for Orlando City?

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Orlando City looked a little different in its 1-0 road victory over Real Salt Lake to end the month of June. And it wasn’t the added defensive effort or Cyle Larin’s extra energy leading the Lions’ line, it was the shape of the side.

The lineup graphic that the team came out with an hour before first kick showed the traditional 4-4-2 formation that Jason Kreis has employed most often during his time here in the City Beautiful. But ESPN’s version showed an uncharacteristic 4-3-3, and Servando Carrasco let slip that perhaps the team’s own graphic was wrong during his post-game interview:

Carrasco said about the team defense in Utah: “I think it was a bit of a tactical switch. You know, we were playing more of a 4-3-3, so the main thing for me was just to try and stay central.”

It was the first time we’ve seen the Lions line up in that formation and it did the dirty work en route to three points in Sandy, UT. The defense allowed only two shots on target even after holding only 39% of possession and surrendering 12 chances on goal. It was a scrappy performance, reminiscent of Orlando’s strong run to begin the year when the team relied on its defense to hold single-goal leads for long stretches of the game. And while the 4-3-3’s debut was a gritty performance against a team floundering at the bottom of the Supporters’ Shield table, don’t be surprised to see it in the future.

The 4-3-3 combines the central midfield base of Kreis’ vaunted diamond with a wider attack. On Friday, Kaká and Giles Barnes were the wide men flanking Larin with the more familiar midfield trio of Cristian Higuita, Antonio Nocerino, and Will Johnson. The change keeps Orlando’s strength — its depth in central midfield — front and center but also widens the formation from the narrow diamond, meaning Higuita and Johnson didn’t need to track down quite as much space from sideline to sideline. Barnes and even Kaká dropped deep at times, making defensive plays near the midfield line.

If you’re looking for a great breakdown on what the 4-3-3 potentially provides, check out this tactical explanation from our friends at 7500 to Holte. There’s little trade-off from the flat 4-4-2 Kreis has been utilizing with varied success recently, with Kaká wide left and away from his classic No. 10 role. The biggest change is swapping out a central striker for another central midfielder, relying on at least one of the central trio to fill that void and get more involved in the attack.

It was Johnson who stepped up against his old club, setting the team high for chances created and shots on target, including the only goal of the game (though that came off a set piece). The three central midfielders are responsible for keeping possession as well, something that the Lions did far better in the diamond than they ever did with flatter formations. Ideally, a swap to the 4-3-3 would keep the same midfield that saw success while also adding width to the attack.

Because of that, the biggest boost by switching formations could come for a player who was unavailable Friday night.

Carlos Rivas has already posted his best statistics in purple this year with three goals and five assists. Those are all coming from the central striker position, which has been both a blessing and a curse for the young Colombian. While Rivas could still set a team record in assists this year, he hasn’t been able to live up to the goal-scoring expectations of a striker. His best individual efforts have come from wide areas, whipping in pinpoint crosses to find Larin waiting in the box. Putting him wide again in the 4-3-3 would allow him to get back to that and hopefully wreak havoc down the left flank. Rivas has looked like a winger playing out of position this year and perhaps it’s time to end the more traditional striker experiment after 18 appearances.

Orlando has players that could fit in the wide areas or have done so over the past few years: Kaká, Rivas, Barnes, Luis Gil, and Hadji Barry are the most likely candidates for playing time wide. But with the loss of Matias Perez Garcia, the amount of quality depth in the wide areas has diminished. With the upcoming summer transfer window, Kreis could look to remedy that. Recently rumored midfielder Juan Fernando Quintero has played on the right wing at times, but there are questions about his commitment to defense.

There is also the question of who becomes the advanced midfielder should Johnson miss a game for one reason or another. None of City’s collection of central midfielders has shown the ability to get forward with any consistent quality. Johnson served as the link from midfield to the forwards and losing that could doom the 4-3-3.

There are also questions about just how committed Kaká and Barnes can be to the defensive side of the ball. While they made a handful of defensive stops each, can they do the same against the better attacks in the league? The issue is that while the club’s best 11 players fit well offensively into the 4-3-3, the team isn’t built to maintain that formation should rotation be necessary. At the very least, Kreis is adapting his tactics and utilizing the strengths of the team even if we don’t see much more of the 4-3-3 this year. But in the coming weeks, the pieces that Orlando bring in could define the shape of the roster going forward under Kreis.

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PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More

The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.

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Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.

We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote

This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.

OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.

Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.

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Here’s how No. 506 went down:

0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!

27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.

39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.

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PawedCast Episode 502: Galaxy Rewind, Ramiro Enrique Transfer News, OCB Defeats Crown Legacy, and More

Lions leave Leagues Cup empty handed, Ramiro Enrique could be on the move soon, OCB gets a vital win, and more

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I couldn’t tell you why this show is nearly an hour other than the fact that we are verbose. Orlando City crashed out of Leagues Cup with back-to-back losses in games that had a Concacaf Champions Cup berth on the line. The Lions did almost nothing in the first half against the LA Galaxy on the road, and threw Martin Ojeda’s second-half equalizer away just seven minutes after he scored it with a horrendous turnover in their defensive third.

We discuss Orlando City’s 2-1 road loss, which featured one of Pedro Gallese’s best-ever saves as a Lion, although it ultimately didn’t matter much, looked back at our score predictions, and made our selections for Man of the Match.

We also discussed Seattle’s 3-0 win over Inter Miami in the final and the shenanigans that the Herons pulled after losing.

Ramiro Enrique was not in uniform Sunday night in the wake of reports that he’s about to be sold for a reported $3 million to a Saudi team. Although the timing isn’t perfect, it would be a good return for the Argentine striker.

This week’s mailbagbox asked about ice cream, donuts, Carlos Mercado vs. Javier Otero, and more. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.

OCB picked up a much-needed three points with a home win over Crown Legacy at the death that nearly immediately became a draw at the even more death. Mercado was sensational in the match for the Young Lions and Thalles scored the timely goal to push the club over the playoff line for the time being. I nearly started to preview an OCB game that is more than a week ago, but the important thing is I stopped myself, otherwise the show would have been even longer.

The senior Lions are also off this week, so we’ll see you next week!

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Here’s how No. 502 went down:

0:15 – Orlando City looked to be following the same script as in the win at LA back in March, but then coughed up the ball in a dangerous spot to one of the Galaxy’s best scorers.

29:36 – The mailbagbox is trying to make us fat(ter).

46:38 – OCB has put together two consecutive late wins as the Young Lions try to get back into playoff contention after several rough weeks.

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Announcement: Change to The Mane Land’s Approach to Live Updates on Social Media

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Here at The Mane Land, we were able to build a rather sizable following on social media early in our growth. We quickly surpassed a thousand followers while we were still a free independent WordPress site with just a few contributors posting about one new story per day. This helped us get the attention of SBNation, which we eventually joined.

When we joined SBNation’s roster of blogs, we quickly rose up the ranks to one of the most followed MLS team-specific accounts on Facebook and Twitter (especially the latter). We always had great engagement on Twitter, with mixed results on Facebook.

With all of that said, we take the relationship with our social media followers seriously, because our readers have helped our growth on those channels (and vice versa), and we know who our friends are. We’ve met a lot of our Twitter followers in person over the years, and we value those times we’ve spent with you.

All of this serves to preface that we’ve decided to change some things up, although it’s nothing too radical. Starting Friday, March 28, TML will no longer be live tweeting matches on Twitter (sorry, I’m still never going to call it X, because that’s dumb). We will also be reducing our already dwindling presence there. I want to emphasize that we are not deleting our account. We will continue to post new stories to the artist formerly known as Twitter. But that’s about all we’ll be doing there. This week’s OCB game will be the last match for which we’ll provide live updates on Twitter.

We will be moving all of our live game coverage to our Bluesky Social account.

Please note: This move should in no way be construed as a political one. There are several factors at play, and while some of our writers may not share political alignment with Twitter’s owner, that is not why I’ve chosen this course — with the support of the TML staff. If this was a political choice, we’d simply delete the account and quit using the platform entirely.

Once upon a time, Twitter used to drive a decent-ish (but, if I’m being honest, never great) amount of engagement to our website, which we could see in our analytics. It was also a place where we could engage with our followers, exchanging thoughts on the club and its players, and occasionally arguing a little bit about those topics.

Before you could simply buy a blue checkmark, Vox Media assisted us in getting vetted by the former ownership, which helped legitimize us as a reliable outlet covering Orlando City SC. That too helped us grow our follower base, but it all went away when the current owner decided to overpay for the platform and tried to monetize it by letting anyone buy a blue checkmark, flooding the non-checkmarked accounts with ads. That was the start of when we began seeing Twitter become less useful as a marketing tool for TML and when it started driving a lot less traffic to our website and podcasts.

Most of our post engagement on Twitter has dried up because of people leaving (or spending less time on) the platform. More likes and retweets are coming from bot accounts than ever before. Typically, we have been seeing a high percentage of post likes coming from obvious bot accounts. And it’s just not a pleasant place to be. There are far too many ads, and most of the “ads” we see in our feed aren’t advertising any service or product. They seem to be individual tweets boosted by…I don’t know, some algorithm, or maybe the account’s owner is actually paying for things like this to be boosted. Most, but not all, of those “ads” are political in nature, and many of the political ones feature easily disprovable lies.

But sometimes it’s random stuff like this:

When every fourth or fifth post is something like the above (or often something worse), it’s just not an enjoyable user experience. We’re not going to give the world’s richest man more money just to cleanse our timeline of it and have the old Twitter experience back (that’s the entire point of “premium,” to get us to pay to go ad free). That’s as valid a choice for a business model as any, I guess, but it’s not one we’re interested in boosting just to get things to go back to how they were.

Between the drop in engagement, the rise of unchecked bot activity, and the weirdness and frequency of the “ads,” it’s a place we’d like to spend less time. Again, we aren’t leaving. We’ll continue to let people on Twitter know when new stories drop. That’s always been our basic approach to Facebook, where we’ve never received a whole lot of engagement.

Bluesky Social, on the other hand, has been quite enjoyable in all the same ways Twitter used to be. With less than a third of the followers that we have on Twitter, our replies, likes, and reposts have been much higher on average over the past year, than those same posts on Twitter. Our podcast listeners submit far more questions there than on Twitter (but you can still ask on Twitter and we’ll answer them on the show). The Bluesky interface is slightly more clunky on desktop than Twitter (desktop is an important part of how I provide live updates during games), but it feels pretty much like Twitter used to. I have been trying to post on both Twitter and Bluesky for OCSC games, but doing both is problematic and more than a little stressful. By limiting live updates to Bluesky, it’ll make things easier for those of us doing this in our spare time for no real financial gain. I’m not asking the staff to start Bluesky accounts, but some of our writers already have them.

Our ask of you on this subject is…nothing. If you’re not on Bluesky, and you decide you don’t want or need another social media account, that’s a valid choice. If you want to join us on Bluesky, we’d love to see you. Our posts about our stories will be (and have been for some time) identical on both platforms (and on Facebook). The only change will be that we (mainly I) will spend more time on Bluesky, less on Twitter, and our live game coverage will be on Bluesky. You can still @ us on Twitter if you like. We may just be a bit less responsive.

Things change, especially technology and social media. Some of you remember MySpace. Or even AOL. It’s entirely possible that a future Twitter with better control of bots and ads may one day be worth egaging with more often again. That’s another reason for us not to delete the account.

At The Mane Land, our main reason for existence continues to be that we love telling the stories of our favorite MLS, NWSL, and MLS NEXT Pro soccer teams. That won’t change — even if the way we promote those stories does from time to time.

Feel free to reach out with any comments or questions you have. And, as always, thank you for your support over the last 11 years.

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