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Orlando City’s USL Stats are an Important Part of Its History
During Orlando City’s 5-2 loss to the Vancouver Whitecaps Saturday night, two Lions reached milestones. Joe Bendik equaled Miguel Gallardo’s goalkeeper record of league appearances at 81 and surpassed the former City number one by breaking 7,200 minutes. In the consuming world of American soccer, should we combine statistics from the USL and MLS era? Why is that important?
To understand why this would be an issue to begin with, you have to look at the American soccer system and Orlando City’s history in it. Major League Soccer is a single-entity system, meaning that all teams are owned by the league. Each team has operators who purchase the rights to operate the team on behalf of the league.
Orlando City was founded on Oct. 25, 2010, when Phil Rawlins purchased the USL rights to Orlando from Steve Donner, owner of the defunct indoor lacrosse team, the Orlando Titans. Bringing over some members of the front office and playing staff from the team he started in Austin, TX, Orlando City SC began play in USL Pro in 2011. Unlike MLS, the team was owned by Rawlins and his investors. When the Lions moved to MLS in 2015, the USL Orlando City team officially relocated to Louisville, KY and was renamed Louisville City FC.
While the team technically relocated and a brand new team was added to MLS, Orlando City was in every other way the same club in 2015 that played in the USL Pro a year earlier. The ownership, front office, and several players remained with the club. Just as important, the club retained its strong fan base that had grown over the previous four seasons.
Orlando City doesn’t have a long history, only existing for four seasons prior to joining MLS in 2015. However, unlike big city MLS teams that are sprouting up as first division teams, the club does have some history. Players like Gallardo, Rob Valentino, and Jamie Watson, among many others, were crucial to getting the club into MLS. They did interviews, went to events, and met with fans to help promote the club, even though they likely weren’t paid for much of it and wouldn’t make the MLS squad. It’s important to remember the sacrifice that these players made because it’s a huge reason why the club plays where it does today.
To many fans, especially those that weren’t around during the USL era, it may seem ridiculous to care about the statistics of the USL days. But those players are just as much a part of the club as anyone during the MLS era. Obviously, it’s difficult to compare statistics when some players played for the club in the third division and others have played for the club in the first division. But those statistics should still be considered, if nothing else, out of respect for the former players of the club. Besides, including lower division statistics isn’t uncommon.
Regardless of the game, history is important to sports teams and their fans. Loyal followers of the team like to know about record holders such as most goals or appearances. Many may dismiss statistics from the lower leagues and claim that only top division records should be counted. But, in addition to honoring the players that got the club to its current status, this would contradict the way statistics are held across the world.
During the 2017-18 Premier League season, Argentine striker Sergio Agüero broke Manchester City’s all-time record of goals scored of 177, previously held by Eric Brook. This record received great attention due to the club’s recent success and explosion in popularity. While all of Agüero’s goals were scored in England’s top flight, Brook spent his first and final season at the club in England’s second division, where he scored 13 goals. That didn’t stop anyone from setting Agüero’s mark to beat at 177 goals.
Another consideration is the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup. Each year, the club plays games against teams in lower divisions. This year, the club’s fourth-round opponent was Miami United FC of the fourth tier NPSL. During Orlando City’s four years in the third division, the Lions never played a team lower than the fourth tier PDL, meaning last Wednesday night’s game was a larger gap in divisions than the club had ever seen.
With the club’s entry into MLS in 2015, it may be common for people to dismiss the USL era and any records that may have been set at that time. The point of this is not to claim that the level of competition was the same, or even close to what the players are facing now, but simply that certain records, such as goals scored or Luke Boden’s appearance record, should be remembered, respected, and upheld. Eventually, all records set during that era will be broken and as the years go by, those four years will be a distant memory. But for now, the club and its fans owe it to those players to include their accomplishments. After all, this wouldn’t even be a discussion without them.
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PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More
The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.
Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.
We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote
This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.
Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.
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Here’s how No. 506 went down:
0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!
27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.
39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.
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PawedCast Episode 502: Galaxy Rewind, Ramiro Enrique Transfer News, OCB Defeats Crown Legacy, and More
Lions leave Leagues Cup empty handed, Ramiro Enrique could be on the move soon, OCB gets a vital win, and more
I couldn’t tell you why this show is nearly an hour other than the fact that we are verbose. Orlando City crashed out of Leagues Cup with back-to-back losses in games that had a Concacaf Champions Cup berth on the line. The Lions did almost nothing in the first half against the LA Galaxy on the road, and threw Martin Ojeda’s second-half equalizer away just seven minutes after he scored it with a horrendous turnover in their defensive third.
We discuss Orlando City’s 2-1 road loss, which featured one of Pedro Gallese’s best-ever saves as a Lion, although it ultimately didn’t matter much, looked back at our score predictions, and made our selections for Man of the Match.
We also discussed Seattle’s 3-0 win over Inter Miami in the final and the shenanigans that the Herons pulled after losing.
Ramiro Enrique was not in uniform Sunday night in the wake of reports that he’s about to be sold for a reported $3 million to a Saudi team. Although the timing isn’t perfect, it would be a good return for the Argentine striker.
This week’s mailbagbox asked about ice cream, donuts, Carlos Mercado vs. Javier Otero, and more. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
OCB picked up a much-needed three points with a home win over Crown Legacy at the death that nearly immediately became a draw at the even more death. Mercado was sensational in the match for the Young Lions and Thalles scored the timely goal to push the club over the playoff line for the time being. I nearly started to preview an OCB game that is more than a week ago, but the important thing is I stopped myself, otherwise the show would have been even longer.
The senior Lions are also off this week, so we’ll see you next week!
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Here’s how No. 502 went down:
0:15 – Orlando City looked to be following the same script as in the win at LA back in March, but then coughed up the ball in a dangerous spot to one of the Galaxy’s best scorers.
29:36 – The mailbagbox is trying to make us fat(ter).
46:38 – OCB has put together two consecutive late wins as the Young Lions try to get back into playoff contention after several rough weeks.
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Announcement: Change to The Mane Land’s Approach to Live Updates on Social Media
Here at The Mane Land, we were able to build a rather sizable following on social media early in our growth. We quickly surpassed a thousand followers while we were still a free independent WordPress site with just a few contributors posting about one new story per day. This helped us get the attention of SBNation, which we eventually joined.
When we joined SBNation’s roster of blogs, we quickly rose up the ranks to one of the most followed MLS team-specific accounts on Facebook and Twitter (especially the latter). We always had great engagement on Twitter, with mixed results on Facebook.
With all of that said, we take the relationship with our social media followers seriously, because our readers have helped our growth on those channels (and vice versa), and we know who our friends are. We’ve met a lot of our Twitter followers in person over the years, and we value those times we’ve spent with you.
All of this serves to preface that we’ve decided to change some things up, although it’s nothing too radical. Starting Friday, March 28, TML will no longer be live tweeting matches on Twitter (sorry, I’m still never going to call it X, because that’s dumb). We will also be reducing our already dwindling presence there. I want to emphasize that we are not deleting our account. We will continue to post new stories to the artist formerly known as Twitter. But that’s about all we’ll be doing there. This week’s OCB game will be the last match for which we’ll provide live updates on Twitter.
We will be moving all of our live game coverage to our Bluesky Social account.
Please note: This move should in no way be construed as a political one. There are several factors at play, and while some of our writers may not share political alignment with Twitter’s owner, that is not why I’ve chosen this course — with the support of the TML staff. If this was a political choice, we’d simply delete the account and quit using the platform entirely.
Once upon a time, Twitter used to drive a decent-ish (but, if I’m being honest, never great) amount of engagement to our website, which we could see in our analytics. It was also a place where we could engage with our followers, exchanging thoughts on the club and its players, and occasionally arguing a little bit about those topics.
Before you could simply buy a blue checkmark, Vox Media assisted us in getting vetted by the former ownership, which helped legitimize us as a reliable outlet covering Orlando City SC. That too helped us grow our follower base, but it all went away when the current owner decided to overpay for the platform and tried to monetize it by letting anyone buy a blue checkmark, flooding the non-checkmarked accounts with ads. That was the start of when we began seeing Twitter become less useful as a marketing tool for TML and when it started driving a lot less traffic to our website and podcasts.
Most of our post engagement on Twitter has dried up because of people leaving (or spending less time on) the platform. More likes and retweets are coming from bot accounts than ever before. Typically, we have been seeing a high percentage of post likes coming from obvious bot accounts. And it’s just not a pleasant place to be. There are far too many ads, and most of the “ads” we see in our feed aren’t advertising any service or product. They seem to be individual tweets boosted by…I don’t know, some algorithm, or maybe the account’s owner is actually paying for things like this to be boosted. Most, but not all, of those “ads” are political in nature, and many of the political ones feature easily disprovable lies.
But sometimes it’s random stuff like this:

When every fourth or fifth post is something like the above (or often something worse), it’s just not an enjoyable user experience. We’re not going to give the world’s richest man more money just to cleanse our timeline of it and have the old Twitter experience back (that’s the entire point of “premium,” to get us to pay to go ad free). That’s as valid a choice for a business model as any, I guess, but it’s not one we’re interested in boosting just to get things to go back to how they were.
Between the drop in engagement, the rise of unchecked bot activity, and the weirdness and frequency of the “ads,” it’s a place we’d like to spend less time. Again, we aren’t leaving. We’ll continue to let people on Twitter know when new stories drop. That’s always been our basic approach to Facebook, where we’ve never received a whole lot of engagement.
Bluesky Social, on the other hand, has been quite enjoyable in all the same ways Twitter used to be. With less than a third of the followers that we have on Twitter, our replies, likes, and reposts have been much higher on average over the past year, than those same posts on Twitter. Our podcast listeners submit far more questions there than on Twitter (but you can still ask on Twitter and we’ll answer them on the show). The Bluesky interface is slightly more clunky on desktop than Twitter (desktop is an important part of how I provide live updates during games), but it feels pretty much like Twitter used to. I have been trying to post on both Twitter and Bluesky for OCSC games, but doing both is problematic and more than a little stressful. By limiting live updates to Bluesky, it’ll make things easier for those of us doing this in our spare time for no real financial gain. I’m not asking the staff to start Bluesky accounts, but some of our writers already have them.
Our ask of you on this subject is…nothing. If you’re not on Bluesky, and you decide you don’t want or need another social media account, that’s a valid choice. If you want to join us on Bluesky, we’d love to see you. Our posts about our stories will be (and have been for some time) identical on both platforms (and on Facebook). The only change will be that we (mainly I) will spend more time on Bluesky, less on Twitter, and our live game coverage will be on Bluesky. You can still @ us on Twitter if you like. We may just be a bit less responsive.
Things change, especially technology and social media. Some of you remember MySpace. Or even AOL. It’s entirely possible that a future Twitter with better control of bots and ads may one day be worth egaging with more often again. That’s another reason for us not to delete the account.
At The Mane Land, our main reason for existence continues to be that we love telling the stories of our favorite MLS, NWSL, and MLS NEXT Pro soccer teams. That won’t change — even if the way we promote those stories does from time to time.
Feel free to reach out with any comments or questions you have. And, as always, thank you for your support over the last 11 years.
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