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Our City: Ups and Downs of Promotion / Relegation Argument
Our City is a weekly column focused on my perspective of Orlando City as a supporter. I would love to incorporate your ideas and stories, if you have something to add or a story idea please connect by commenting here or on Twitter: @kevinmercer225
Major League Soccer has evolved over the years to appeal to the growing ranks of American soccer enthusiasts. Gone are the days of countdown clocks and mandatory shootouts. We’ve lost the Dallas Burn and Kansas City Wizards, only to find more traditional soccer monikers, like FC Dallas and Sporting Kansas City.
These changes signaled a shift away from marketing the league to general sports fans and instead wisely attempted to bring the significant numbers of soccer purists to the stadium. Sure, we haven't recreated the atmosphere of Camp Nou or Anfield, but I would challenge you to compare the atmosphere of an MLS game at a soccer specific stadium and that of a midlevel international club.
The success of MLS 2.0 — Don Garber’s reboot of the league — a game that American soccer enthusiasts can enjoy, has left two questions begging. First, when will MLS transfer to a traditional fall-to-spring schedule? The Orlando City SC faithful will be asking this question often in August when our only game time weather options will be stifling heat with 100% humidity or torrential rainstorms with lightning.
The second is, when will MLS institute a promotion / relegation system? The recent NCAA football bowl games and new playoff system got me thinking about this last one.
Briefly explained for the uninitiated, promotion/ relegation simply means that at the end of the season a select number of clubs at the bottom of a league will move down, while clubs from a lower league will be promoted. There may or may not be a playoff involved.
This has a number of benefits. First, it creates meaningful games for teams in the league basement. Instead of a late season meaningless game between two also-ran clubs, you have a battle for survival. Second, it separates the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.
Think of the clubs in American sports who seem to permanently hold down the final spot in league tables. We won't name names, but I'm sure you can think of more than a few. Relegating underperforming clubs brings new blood and passion into the league and cuts some of the dead weight free to figure things out in a lower league. These are the two most cited benefits for a promotion/relegation system, there are of course more.
The problem is this: the structure of MLS could never allow it. The buy-in fees for expansion clubs are hovering around $100 million right now. Orlando City paid $70 million, while the new club in Los Angeles reportedly paid $110 million.
The reasoning for MLS not having a promotion/ relegation system seems quite clear — nobody wants to pay $100 million to play in the B league one day. MLS wants a competitive league and it wants to expand, but these two desires bump up swiftly against the desire to have millionaires willing to pay expansion fees with confidence.
This is where I began to see comparisons with college football. When trying to explain international soccer to friends, I have often used the NCAA as an example. It is the only sport in America that is comparable with European soccer.
The multitude of intense rivalries, the many different leagues with various standards, and the widespread geographic nature of colleges all mirror elements of the European and South American club pyramids. For example, while a state like Alabama might not support a top tier sports franchise, it does support four FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision) teams (Alabama, Auburn, South Alabama, and Troy).
College football can double the populations of some towns on game day and bring national championships away from America's major sport markets. While clubs in Europe's major cities dominate many of the leagues, clubs from smaller cities like West Bromwich, for example, compete in the English Premier League.
Statistically, West Brom is a similar size to Savannah, GA, and a bit smaller than Dayton, OH. I can't imagine the NBA or NFL putting a team in Savannah anytime soon, yet in a promotion/relegation system, a town the same size has found an ability to compete in a top-tier league.
I could go on making comparisons, but the point is, a promotion/relegation system awards teams the chance to play for the top prize, even if they aren't in a lucrative market or considered a traditional challenger. Many universities in America would love the chance to compete for a national championship but have become locked out of the major conferences.
My Alma Mater, the University of Central Florida, is certainly one, but not the only, example of this. During the rush of realignment a couple of years ago, they moved to the former Big East in hopes of joining one of the top leagues, only to have the conference absolutely disintegrate around them.
The traditional football powers in the league shuffled off to the even bigger conferences. This realignment wasn't about creating regionally competitive leagues or anything to do with the betterment of college football. It had everything to do with money.
College football, like MLS, is an invitation-only party. Those teams in leagues able to compete for the major trophies have seemingly closed the door to outside competition, while those on the outside looking in can only gain entry into the upper divisions with a significant check and the right handshake.
As MLS seeks to expand and cities continue to line up for the chance for an expansion team, the league faces a number of problems. The most significant of these problems is maintaining the talent to keep the on-field product viable.
U.S. soccer history has the best cautionary tale for such expansion in the old NASL. Eventually, a two-tiered MLS with promotion and relegation could make a lot of sense. Opening up new markets and tapping into great existing ones from the new NASL and USL Pro would be dynamic and unique to the American sports marketplace. It would give soccer purists what they have been seeking, while creating drama and excitement that just might entice new generations of fans.
I imagine smaller market clubs with legions of fans who swell with pride as their team pushes its way into the top flight. On the other end, some of the mismanaged clubs in MLS would be forced into a season of reevaluation and renewal in a lower league.
Just one caveat though: the current well-invested owners of MLS clubs have one hundred million reasons not to go along with it.
So what do you think? Is there any possible way to bring a promotion/relegation system to MLS?
Polling Closed
| Player | Votes |
| It Will Never Happen, But I Wish It Would | 91 |
| Never, Thankfully | 27 |
| It Could Happen, But I Hope It Doesn’t | 10 |
| It Will Happen, I Can’t Wait! | 39 |
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A Few Words About the Future of The Mane Land
TML needs help to continue bringing you coverage of Orlando City, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and all things soccer related in the City Beautiful.
For the last 11 years, The Mane Land has worked hard to provide daily content telling the story of Orlando City SC, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and any other soccer-related events we can get to in the Central Florida area. We love doing that, but we’re at a critical stage in being able to do so. Staff has been difficult to replace in recent years, and we’ve come to a point where some of us have not only been stretched to an unsustainable limit, but we’ve been going at that rate for multiple years without a break.
To that point, TML is now at a critical juncture where we must have more contributors who can cover live events in order to survive in our current format (and possibly at all). For the past few years, we have had only two primary game night writers covering three teams, and we are unable to continue at that pace, regardless of how much we enjoy doing it.
To continue as an entity, we’re going to need anywhere from two to four new contributors who can pitch in with game-night coverage of Orlando City/Orlando Pride matches. Additionally, another copy editor is essential, while two more would be preferred.
We’d like to continue into 2026, but if we can’t get the additional help we need, the current plan is to shut down at the end of the 2025 calendar year. The minimum we need to carry on would be two new live event writers and a copy editor.
What does this mean? Well, if you’ve ever thought it would be cool to cover soccer matches (it is) or thought about joining us, now is the time to volunteer. If you enjoy soccer and talking about this club with your friends, you might be perfect for our team, because if you can talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Writing is just talking on a screen with your fingers, after all.
To get started, please write to us at themaneland@gmail.com and let us know how you’d like to contribute — writing, editing, etc.
It is important to note that we do this out of a love for the beautiful game and these positions are on a voluntary basis. However, if freed from the shackles of such an overwhelming schedule, my goal is to spend more time creating strategic partnerships and promoting our membership platform that could combine to bring in revenue that would go toward compensating staff writers. Additionally, some of our staff members have gone on to more financially rewarding opportunities as a result of their time with us. You never know what this experience will lead to. Like anything else in life, you’re likely to get out of it what you put in.
The good news is that we have already reached out to our Founders and our Buy Me a Coffee subscribers about this subject, and several have shown an interest in helping, so we are in the process of exploring those potential contributors at the moment.
We Are Currently Seeking:
- Match writers – You don’t need a degree in journalism or English to write for us. If you like to talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Staff writers contribute regularly to our game coverage, which could be in the form of recaps, player grades pieces, five takeaways posts, etc. We have a need for this on both the Orlando City and Pride sides, and you can do both if you want. If you’re not local to the Orlando area, you can cover road matches via the broadcast/stream.
- Editors – Can you spot a subject/verb disagreement from a mile away? An editor position may be for you! How often do you get to correct people without anyone shaming you for it? This position will edit copy for submitted stories, make headlines punchier and more SEO-friendly, and ensure the story has a properly cropped/centered photo that helps tell the story. Typically you’ll only be on “desk duty” one or two evenings per week when it fits your schedule. You may also write stories if you wish!
About TML
Our little blog became an idea and then an independent WordPress site in late September of 2014, and went live on SBNation in December of that year. When SBNation stopped funding nearly all of its MLS blogs a few years ago, we went independent again, and we’ve long been the only outlet providing daily coverage of Orlando City’s teams. Even the club doesn’t post new content to its website every day!
FAQ
Why shutter the site at the end of December? Why do you need help now when the season doesn’t start for a couple of months?
Preparing to cover three teams requires advance planning. Each year, we put together a publication schedule to ensure all our bases are covered. This includes what will run (a placeholder or sometimes the specific piece) on every day of the year, which obviously doesn’t take into account breaking news or extra features that people want to do. Setting up this publication schedule also includes noting when major soccer events are coming, known USMNT/USWNT scheduled matches, MLS and NWSL deadlines, player birthdays, important milestones and anniversaries, and more. We also put together volunteer sign-up sheets for grades and takeaways posts. That setup work is all for naught if we don’t have the bodies to physically cover the team when the season starts. Also, it’s easier to pull the plug on our LLC at the end of a calendar year. None of us want to stop, but we have to be realistic about being able to continue covering the team as we have.
Why not just scale back and cover what you can? Do you have to cover every game?
I don’t have a good answer for this other than I would not feel right about putting my name on a product I don’t believe in. I don’t ever want our audience to have to guess whether or not they’re getting a game recap or any follow-up analysis from a given match. In my opinion, we have never had the personnel to fully provide what I envision. For example, I want to add more video content, player grades and recaps for the Pride games, and to bring back weekend Lion Links and OCB match previews. And we should have a lot more features and analysis pieces! In short, we’re already doing the bare minimum that I’m comfortable with. And, I have to be honest: if there was a game coming up with no one to cover it, knowing me, I’d probably just do it myself, and I already know I can’t continue the pace of the past few years. I have to save me from myself sometimes.
Could The Mane Land continue in a different form?
I have toyed with the idea of turning TML into a newsletter. This might be a daily that includes a Lion Links-type section and opinion/analysis of club news. It would not include match coverage or any kind of regular news. I almost pivoted to that when SBNation stopped funding us, but we decided to make a go of it as an independent outlet. The problem with the newsletter style is that I can’t do it daily every single day or it would be no different than the situation I’m in, so some help would still be needed. Some of that could come from the current TML staff, but I’m not sure all of it could, and the newsletter format is not for everyone, so we’d be leaving part of our audience behind. I’m not sure it’s the way to go.
Is new management or investment needed?
Possibly. I am willing to sell the name and logo and turn over all our passwords for someone else to take over the operations, which would free up a considerable amount of my time. I’m even willing to continue on as a writing and editing contributor, because I love covering the club. Some of the other staff might as well. But I would not be interested in covering every single match. I’m not a kid anymore, and I have a regular job, a family, and other side gigs that require my attention.
Will you still do the podcasts if the site shuts down?
No. I think if we decide to shut down, it will be across the board. I much prefer our written content, and that’s the reason I started our outlet to begin with. I feel the podcasts complement our coverage and give us more of an opinion platform and a way to discuss matches in a deeper, richer way, but I’m not interested in doing only the podcasts. That said, others on our staff might want to continue and I’m OK with that.
Contact us at themaneland@gmail.com today to get started as a new contributor!
Podcasts
PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More
The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.
Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.
We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote
This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.
Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.
Be sure to rate and review our show wherever you get your podcasts. Remember, we’ll read any five-star reviews we get on Apple Podcasts on the next show.
If you’d like to support our independent writing and podcasting efforts, we’d love to have you as a subscriber or donor over at our Buy Me a Coffee site.
Here’s how No. 506 went down:
0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!
27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.
39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.
Podcasts
PawedCast Episode 502: Galaxy Rewind, Ramiro Enrique Transfer News, OCB Defeats Crown Legacy, and More
Lions leave Leagues Cup empty handed, Ramiro Enrique could be on the move soon, OCB gets a vital win, and more
I couldn’t tell you why this show is nearly an hour other than the fact that we are verbose. Orlando City crashed out of Leagues Cup with back-to-back losses in games that had a Concacaf Champions Cup berth on the line. The Lions did almost nothing in the first half against the LA Galaxy on the road, and threw Martin Ojeda’s second-half equalizer away just seven minutes after he scored it with a horrendous turnover in their defensive third.
We discuss Orlando City’s 2-1 road loss, which featured one of Pedro Gallese’s best-ever saves as a Lion, although it ultimately didn’t matter much, looked back at our score predictions, and made our selections for Man of the Match.
We also discussed Seattle’s 3-0 win over Inter Miami in the final and the shenanigans that the Herons pulled after losing.
Ramiro Enrique was not in uniform Sunday night in the wake of reports that he’s about to be sold for a reported $3 million to a Saudi team. Although the timing isn’t perfect, it would be a good return for the Argentine striker.
This week’s mailbagbox asked about ice cream, donuts, Carlos Mercado vs. Javier Otero, and more. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
OCB picked up a much-needed three points with a home win over Crown Legacy at the death that nearly immediately became a draw at the even more death. Mercado was sensational in the match for the Young Lions and Thalles scored the timely goal to push the club over the playoff line for the time being. I nearly started to preview an OCB game that is more than a week ago, but the important thing is I stopped myself, otherwise the show would have been even longer.
The senior Lions are also off this week, so we’ll see you next week!
Be sure to rate and review our show wherever you get your podcasts. Remember, we’ll read any five-star reviews we get on Apple Podcasts on the next show.
If you’d like to support our independent writing and podcasting efforts, we’d love to have you as a subscriber or donor over at our Buy Me a Coffee site.
Here’s how No. 502 went down:
0:15 – Orlando City looked to be following the same script as in the win at LA back in March, but then coughed up the ball in a dangerous spot to one of the Galaxy’s best scorers.
29:36 – The mailbagbox is trying to make us fat(ter).
46:38 – OCB has put together two consecutive late wins as the Young Lions try to get back into playoff contention after several rough weeks.
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