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What MLS Might Look Like If it Adopted Promotion and Relegation
I don’t mean to beat a dead horse and bring up the same old argument that American soccer fans have been having for years, but someone has to do it, so let’s talk about promotion and relegation.
I’m not going to bring in the pros and cons of pro/rel — that would be a much longer article for you to read through, and it would likely contain regurgitated quotes from industry experts saying the same things we’ve all been hearing for years. Instead, I’m going to talk about what MLS would look like next season if promotion and relegation were to be adopted.
Before I go any further, I will let you know my opinions on the subject of pro/rel, just for transparency’s sake. I am in favor of pro/rel. I think it would breed more competition, better players, and better fan bases. However, fiscally speaking, it is something that would be very difficult to make work in the American sports model. Owners would be uneasy when it comes to making investments, because one poor season could result in the loss of it all. So I understand both sides of the coin, but I am in favor of the betterment of the game, not the wallets of the owners, and that is my stance.
Now that we’ve done that, let’s examine how we would implement promotion and relegation. Now of course, minus the statistics I mention, the methods of implementation are what I believe would be the best way to do it, no concrete evidence to anything here.
I think the way that would be the most widely received, would be the German Bundesliga’s method of pro/rel. It isn’t a strict three-up/three-down system, and adds some action and tension that I think would be well received by the American sports fan. The way the Bundesliga works is that the bottom two teams are automatically sent down to the second division at year’s end, with the top two teams from the second division moving up. Then, when it comes to the third spot for promotion, it all comes down to a playoff. Not like how it is done in England, where teams three through six play a four-team playoff for the final spot. Instead, the third-place team from the second division plays a two-legged playoff series against the team that finished third from the bottom of the first division.
Last season in Germany, this featured VfL Wolfsburg fighting for its life and managing to stay up in the Bundesliga, defeating Eintracht Braunschweig, 2-0 on aggregate. The narrative fits everything that an American sports fan loves: it makes it almost a David-vs.-Goliath story where the little guy has an opportunity for glory while the well-established team has to fight for its livelihood. I do believe that maybe in the future the English method with the four-team playoff could be adopted instead, however since there is some unfamiliarity with teams in the lower leagues among the average MLS fan, I think having an MLS team involved in the playoff would bode better for ratings.
Which Teams are Going Down?
Looking at the Supporters’ Shield standings, Orlando City would definitely have been safe this season, despite finishing 10th in the East with 39 points. The two worst teams in the league both finished with 32 points, and they are the LA Galaxy and D.C. United. Finishing just one point ahead of those teams, with 33, were the Colorado Rapids, who would find themselves in a playoff scenario if this were to occur.
Honestly, this scenario would be particularly devastating for the league. D.C. is set to open a new soccer-specific stadium next year, LA just had its stadium expanded. Not to mention that these two teams have combined for 14 trips to the MLS Cup and nine championships in the league’s history. The Galaxy have five titles, and United has four, while the next-closest in league history have two. The reason that I’m harping on the importance of these two teams in particular is because it would likely result in big problems for MLS, as the league would miss out on these larger market shares.
It would also be a large issue for the rosters themselves. In many leagues around the world, “star” players often request a clause in their contracts that states that they would be released from the team or be transferred to another team if the club were to be relegated. Now we already know that Bill Hamid does not wish to return to D.C., but as for the rest of the teams, we could examine who would likely be shipped out.
For D.C., the diminutive maestro Luciano Acosta would likely be gone, along with recent signing and young American hope Paul Arriola. For LA…the list is much longer. One-time MVP contender Romain Alessandrini, the Dos Santos brothers, along with Americans Jermaine Jones and Gyasi Zardes would likely be looking for new jobs. Hell, If Colorado were to lose the relegation playoff, Tim Howard would even be looking for a job.
Which Teams are Coming Up?
So we have our two teams on the way down, and one heading for a playoff, but who is coming up to the first division? Technically, both the North American Soccer League (NASL) and United Soccer League (USL) were granted Division 2 status from the U.S. Soccer Federation last season, but for the sake of this experiment, I will grant the USL superior status due to the fact that they have more competition, a larger reach, and incredibly devoted fan bases.
Not a knock to the NASL at all, but come on, have you seen Nippert Stadium for an FC Cincinnati game? Plus, the USL has Division 2 status for next season. The only drawback to using the USL is that MLS “B Teams” often play in this league. OCB, Sounders 2, Timbers 2, Real Monarchs SLC, etc., etc. So, since we can’t have two teams from the same organization in MLS, any team that is run by an MLS team is disqualified. Unfortunately, that means Real Monarchs SLC, who were top of the table this past year in USL, will not be moving up. With that being said, first place belongs to Louisville City FC, second to San Antonio FC, and third goes to Reno 1868 FC, who would reach the playoff.
Frankly, I think MLS was always missing a team that had a year in their name, so in this fictitious scenario, I’m pulling for Reno to knock off Colorado. I know I said earlier why the relegated teams could hurt MLS. Just as easily, these promoted teams could aid MLS because they are in markets that have just started to get a whiff of what professional soccer can be, give these fans a taste of MLS, and the possibilities could be endless. Now obviously things would be difficult; Louisville and Reno both play in baseball stadiums that seat on average about 8,000 to 10,000 fans, and San Antonio FC plays in its own soccer-specific stadium, Toyota Field, which seats 8,000. The most glaring issue here is that these stadiums are not up to MLS standards. But they could make for interesting away days if you ask me, especially Toyota Field. I would also love the opportunity to see Reno striker and USL Golden Boot winner Dane Kelly get a chance to strut his stuff in MLS.
Final Thoughts
Obviously, this is a dream scenario for what may never actually happen in North American soccer. But it doesn’t hurt to be hopeful, or to speculate, and imagine how different the landscape of the league would be if these opportunities were offered to clubs in the lower divisions. After getting through all of that, I’m not gonna lie, I’m a little winded, so from here I’d love to hear from you.
Are you for or against pro/rel? If you’re for it, do you like how the Bundesliga does the playoff or would you prefer the English method? Where do you think players who are now void of contract would end up? If this happened, would MLS ever allow for true free agency? There really are just so many questions, and I would love to hear your opinions on all of them, so be sure, to comment on them below and I will try to get back to as many of you as I possibly can.
Podcasts
PawedCast Episode 515: Orlando City Transfers, Preseason Schedule, OCB Signings, and More
We’re back to discuss Orlando City’s transfer news and rumors, OCB roster additions, and the preseason schedule.
Orlando City has gathered for preseason camp ahead of the 2026 season, and we’re still here to talk about it. How long that continues to be the case may unknown at this point, but we’re trending in the right direction, so if that continues, you’re stuck with us for a while longer.
The Lions have had various comings and goings since our last show, and we discuss the movement in and out of the roster. We thought Carlos Coronel was going to be the new Orlando City starter in goal, but he fled to Brazil, so we welcome Canadian international Maxime Crepeau to the City Beautiful. It’s not as splashy an addition, but it could be just as effective a roster move if he can regain his form from his Vancouver and LAFC days.
We also discussed the additions of Tiago, Luis Otavio, and Braian Ojeda. On the other hand, departures took place as well, such as Nico Rodriguez being loaned to Atletico Nacional and the reports that Luis Muriel may be finalizing a deal to move on. We chatted about what those moves mean in the grand scheme of things. Kyle Smith went home and we are glad he’s still playing but sad to see him in another team’s uniform.
The preseason schedule was a bit underwhelming, but we ran through it quickly.
Our mailbagbox was a little light, and it proved to us how little we know about the Polish national team. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
Finally, we talked a bit about the recent moves OCB has made, including the addition of a Brazilian striker. Former OCB forward Shak Mohammed is off to Nashville, while OCB/OCSC left wing Yutaro Tsukada showed up to preseason camp with a wedding ring. Congrats to Yutaro!
Note: we are now in our off-season podcast schedule, which is guaranteed to give you at least one episode per month but we will only be weekly if/when news warrants it. We’ll also return for at least one more show to say goodbye if things don’t work out for us to continue, but we are hoping it doesn’t come to that!
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Here’s how No. 515 went down:
0:15 – An update on our staffing crisis is more hopeful than the last one, and we go through the various arrivals and departures.
30:16 – The mailbagbox seeks help for Orlando City from Poland and wants to know which position we’d least like to see the club make a Designated Player signing.
41:52 – OCB news, a new home for Shak, and Tsukada ties the knot.
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A Few Words About the Future of The Mane Land
TML needs help to continue bringing you coverage of Orlando City, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and all things soccer related in the City Beautiful.
For the last 11 years, The Mane Land has worked hard to provide daily content telling the story of Orlando City SC, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and any other soccer-related events we can get to in the Central Florida area. We love doing that, but we’re at a critical stage in being able to do so. Staff has been difficult to replace in recent years, and we’ve come to a point where some of us have not only been stretched to an unsustainable limit, but we’ve been going at that rate for multiple years without a break.
To that point, TML is now at a critical juncture where we must have more contributors who can cover live events in order to survive in our current format (and possibly at all). For the past few years, we have had only two primary game night writers covering three teams, and we are unable to continue at that pace, regardless of how much we enjoy doing it.
To continue as an entity, we’re going to need anywhere from two to four new contributors who can pitch in with game-night coverage of Orlando City/Orlando Pride matches. Additionally, another copy editor is essential, while two more would be preferred.
We’d like to continue into 2026, but if we can’t get the additional help we need, the current plan is to shut down at the end of the 2025 calendar year. The minimum we need to carry on would be two new live event writers and a copy editor.
What does this mean? Well, if you’ve ever thought it would be cool to cover soccer matches (it is) or thought about joining us, now is the time to volunteer. If you enjoy soccer and talking about this club with your friends, you might be perfect for our team, because if you can talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Writing is just talking on a screen with your fingers, after all.
To get started, please write to us at themaneland@gmail.com and let us know how you’d like to contribute — writing, editing, etc.
It is important to note that we do this out of a love for the beautiful game and these positions are on a voluntary basis. However, if freed from the shackles of such an overwhelming schedule, my goal is to spend more time creating strategic partnerships and promoting our membership platform that could combine to bring in revenue that would go toward compensating staff writers. Additionally, some of our staff members have gone on to more financially rewarding opportunities as a result of their time with us. You never know what this experience will lead to. Like anything else in life, you’re likely to get out of it what you put in.
The good news is that we have already reached out to our Founders and our Buy Me a Coffee subscribers about this subject, and several have shown an interest in helping, so we are in the process of exploring those potential contributors at the moment.
We Are Currently Seeking:
- Match writers – You don’t need a degree in journalism or English to write for us. If you like to talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Staff writers contribute regularly to our game coverage, which could be in the form of recaps, player grades pieces, five takeaways posts, etc. We have a need for this on both the Orlando City and Pride sides, and you can do both if you want. If you’re not local to the Orlando area, you can cover road matches via the broadcast/stream.
- Editors – Can you spot a subject/verb disagreement from a mile away? An editor position may be for you! How often do you get to correct people without anyone shaming you for it? This position will edit copy for submitted stories, make headlines punchier and more SEO-friendly, and ensure the story has a properly cropped/centered photo that helps tell the story. Typically you’ll only be on “desk duty” one or two evenings per week when it fits your schedule. You may also write stories if you wish!
About TML
Our little blog became an idea and then an independent WordPress site in late September of 2014, and went live on SBNation in December of that year. When SBNation stopped funding nearly all of its MLS blogs a few years ago, we went independent again, and we’ve long been the only outlet providing daily coverage of Orlando City’s teams. Even the club doesn’t post new content to its website every day!
FAQ
Why shutter the site at the end of December? Why do you need help now when the season doesn’t start for a couple of months?
Preparing to cover three teams requires advance planning. Each year, we put together a publication schedule to ensure all our bases are covered. This includes what will run (a placeholder or sometimes the specific piece) on every day of the year, which obviously doesn’t take into account breaking news or extra features that people want to do. Setting up this publication schedule also includes noting when major soccer events are coming, known USMNT/USWNT scheduled matches, MLS and NWSL deadlines, player birthdays, important milestones and anniversaries, and more. We also put together volunteer sign-up sheets for grades and takeaways posts. That setup work is all for naught if we don’t have the bodies to physically cover the team when the season starts. Also, it’s easier to pull the plug on our LLC at the end of a calendar year. None of us want to stop, but we have to be realistic about being able to continue covering the team as we have.
Why not just scale back and cover what you can? Do you have to cover every game?
I don’t have a good answer for this other than I would not feel right about putting my name on a product I don’t believe in. I don’t ever want our audience to have to guess whether or not they’re getting a game recap or any follow-up analysis from a given match. In my opinion, we have never had the personnel to fully provide what I envision. For example, I want to add more video content, player grades and recaps for the Pride games, and to bring back weekend Lion Links and OCB match previews. And we should have a lot more features and analysis pieces! In short, we’re already doing the bare minimum that I’m comfortable with. And, I have to be honest: if there was a game coming up with no one to cover it, knowing me, I’d probably just do it myself, and I already know I can’t continue the pace of the past few years. I have to save me from myself sometimes.
Could The Mane Land continue in a different form?
I have toyed with the idea of turning TML into a newsletter. This might be a daily that includes a Lion Links-type section and opinion/analysis of club news. It would not include match coverage or any kind of regular news. I almost pivoted to that when SBNation stopped funding us, but we decided to make a go of it as an independent outlet. The problem with the newsletter style is that I can’t do it daily every single day or it would be no different than the situation I’m in, so some help would still be needed. Some of that could come from the current TML staff, but I’m not sure all of it could, and the newsletter format is not for everyone, so we’d be leaving part of our audience behind. I’m not sure it’s the way to go.
Is new management or investment needed?
Possibly. I am willing to sell the name and logo and turn over all our passwords for someone else to take over the operations, which would free up a considerable amount of my time. I’m even willing to continue on as a writing and editing contributor, because I love covering the club. Some of the other staff might as well. But I would not be interested in covering every single match. I’m not a kid anymore, and I have a regular job, a family, and other side gigs that require my attention.
Will you still do the podcasts if the site shuts down?
No. I think if we decide to shut down, it will be across the board. I much prefer our written content, and that’s the reason I started our outlet to begin with. I feel the podcasts complement our coverage and give us more of an opinion platform and a way to discuss matches in a deeper, richer way, but I’m not interested in doing only the podcasts. That said, others on our staff might want to continue and I’m OK with that.
Contact us at themaneland@gmail.com today to get started as a new contributor!
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PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More
The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.
Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.
We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote
This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.
Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.
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Here’s how No. 506 went down:
0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!
27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.
39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.
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