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A Look at PRO, Part 1: How Orlando City Fared Before and After Jason Kreis’ Comments
This is the first of a two-part series that examines the Professional Referee Organization (PRO). The purpose of the series is to take a look at the United States’ referees’ data, as well as some individual performances, to see the effectiveness of PRO’s officials. An important question that will constantly be brought up is, “Are PRO officials correctly adhering to the laws of the game, and if not, how can it be fixed?”
This first part will focus on referee stats and some common miscalls. Video Assistant Referee (VAR) will be briefly discussed but the subject of video review and VAR is not the focus. Also, it is important to note that when looking at officials’ stats it can only be seen what calls they did make. Therefore, they are only good to a certain point because they do not take into account the number of calls that were missed. In the next part I will go into individual games.
Since Orlando City has joined MLS there has been a stigma around the club and supporters that the referees do not call their games fairly. Both of the club’s managers, Adrian Heath and Jason Kreis — as well as players and fans — have voiced their displeasure over the officiating. From the Geiger Show to Ted Unkel, there seems to be some truth to this matter.
Back on June 4 was the perhaps the tipping point for Kreis when Unkel issued two straight reds to Orlando City players in a 0-0 draw against the Chicago Fire. The first (shown below) was to Rafael Ramos in the 26th minute and it could be argued that there was no foul at all.
About 41 minutes later, Antonio Nocerino was issued a red, on which even the Fire’s Michael de Leeuw looked surprised at the call. It was definitely a foul as Noce was late but the Italian was clearly playing the ball and Matt Polster jumped in front of Nocerino at the last minute.
While this was just one game, calls like this seem to go against the Lions too often, and led to Kreis calling out the officials over it after Orlando’s 3-1 home loss to Toronto FC.
The number of times that we’ve had defenders draped all over Cyle Larin in the box and he goes down and we don’t get penalty kicks for that…the number of times that we’ve had inadvertent handballs in the penalty box that we don’t get calls for but yet [Kaka] sticks his arm up a few games ago and gets a penalty kick called against him…it’s so many occasions now that I just can’t bear it anymore. The decision for the foul that [Sebastian] Giovinco scores the goal tonight to make the third goal for me was absolutely ridiculous. There’s no chance that our player gets that same foul called and we saw it time and time again tonight where our players were in those exact same positions, went down, and did not get the call.”
First I broke down the stats into two categories — Pre-Kreis and Post-Kreis comments — to look to see if the coach’s comments changed the way the officials called Orlando’s games.
Officials’ Stats: Pre-Kreis Comments
| Referee | Games | Fouls Against Orlando City | Fouls Against the Opposition | Yellow Cards to Orlando City | Yellow Cards to the Opposition | Red Cards to Orlando City | Red Cards to the Opposition |
| Bazakos, Fotis | 1 | 14 | 12 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Chapman, Allen | 1 | 7 | 13 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Elfath, Ismail | 2 | 39 | 30 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Fischer, Drew | 1 | 10 | 18 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| Geiger, Mark | 1 | 18 | 13 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Gonzalez, Jorge | 1 | 15 | 22 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Kelly, Alan | 1 | 11 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Marrufo, Jair | 2 | 10 | 12 | 5 | 6 | 0 | 0 |
| Penso, Chris | 2 | 20 | 24 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Rivero, Jose Carlos | 1 | 10 | 13 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Saghafi, Nima | 1 | 14 | 18 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Salazar, Ricardo | 1 | 9 | 7 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Sibiga, Robert | 2 | 27 | 25 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| Stoica, Sorin | 1 | 12 | 18 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Toledo, Baldomero | 1 | 13 | 16 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Unkel, Ted | 1 | 8 | 14 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 |
| Total | 20 | 237 | 262 | 38 | 51 | 2 | 0 |
Looking at the table above, it is actually interesting to see that the officials called fewer fouls against the Lions, who were given fewer cards than the opposition. Orlando was given two red cards, which both came thanks to Mr. Unkel’s antics. Orlando’s opponents averaged .65 more cards per game than Orlando, and 1.25 more fouls.
Official’s Stats: Post-Kreis Comments
| Referee | Games | Fouls Against Orlando City | Fouls Against the Opposition | Yellow Cards to Orlando City | Yellow Cards to the Opposition | Red Cards to Orlando City | Red Cards to the Opposition |
| Chapman, Allen | 1 | 15 | 14 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Dickerson, Joseph | 1 | 11 | 16 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Gantar, Dave | 1 | 19 | 16 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 |
| Gonzalez, Jorge | 1 | 16 | 18 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 |
| Grajeda, Hilario | 1 | 10 | 19 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Guzman, Juan | 1 | 17 | 20 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 1 |
| Marrufo, Jair | 1 | 12 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Penso, Chris | 1 | 10 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Petrescu, Silviu | 1 | 16 | 14 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 1 |
| Rivero, Jose Carlos | 1 | 8 | 15 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Sibiga, Robert | 1 | 17 | 22 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| Stott, Kevin | 1 | 9 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Toledo, Baldomero | 1 | 11 | 16 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| Villarreal, Armando | 1 | 11 | 14 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Total | 14 | 182 | 219 | 28 | 29 | 3 | 2 |
After the Kreis comments the numbers changed a little. In the final 14 games, the referees called 37 more fouls on the Lions, or an extra 2.6 per game. The number of cards were even. Looking at the total official stats (below), and the average is about the same with Orlando and throughout the league. So, statistically, the referees fairly officiated Orlando City games. However, there also must go into consideration the fouls not called and the types of fouls called.
2017 Referee Stats
| Referee | Games | Fouls Awarded | Yellow Cards | Red Cards | Yellows per game | Reds per game |
| Bazakos, Fotis | 10 | 264 | 42 | 1 | 4.2 | 0.1 |
| Chapman, Allen | 22 | 485 | 79 | 5 | 3.59 | 0.23 |
| Chilowicz, Alex | 3 | 74 | 11 | 1 | 3.67 | 0.33 |
| DeOliveira, Marcos | 4 | 96 | 12 | 0 | 3 | 0 |
| Dickerson, Joseph | 1 | 27 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| Elfath, Ismail | 21 | 562 | 61 | 7 | 2.9 | 0.33 |
| Fischer, Drew | 15 | 403 | 55 | 4 | 3.67 | 0.27 |
| Gantar, Dave | 8 | 202 | 22 | 4 | 2.75 | 0.5 |
| Geiger, Mark | 14 | 363 | 38 | 2 | 2.71 | 0.14 |
| Gonzalez, Jorge | 14 | 356 | 61 | 6 | 4.36 | 0.43 |
| Grajeda, Hilario | 17 | 490 | 68 | 1 | 4 | 0.06 |
| Guzman, Juan | 2 | 59 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 0.5 |
| Kelly, Alan | 25 | 594 | 83 | 2 | 3.32 | 0.08 |
| Marrakchi, Younes | 1 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Marrufo, Jair | 12 | 254 | 27 | 1 | 2.25 | 0.08 |
| Penso, Chris | 25 | 607 | 106 | 5 | 4.24 | 0.2 |
| Petrescu, Silviu | 15 | 410 | 62 | 1 | 4.13 | 0.07 |
| Rivero, Jose Carlos | 22 | 529 | 89 | 8 | 4.05 | 0.36 |
| Saghafi, Nima | 13 | 335 | 49 | 3 | 3.77 | 0.23 |
| Salazar, Ricardo | 21 | 457 | 70 | 4 | 3.33 | 0.19 |
| Sibiga, Robert | 24 | 567 | 89 | 4 | 3.71 | 0.17 |
| Stoica, Sorin | 13 | 360 | 50 | 2 | 3.85 | 0.15 |
| Stott, Kevin | 20 | 397 | 39 | 3 | 1.95 | 0.15 |
| Toledo, Baldomero | 21 | 552 | 82 | 14 | 3.9 | 0.67 |
| Unkel, Ted | 11 | 230 | 38 | 5 | 3.45 | 0.45 |
| Vazquez, Rubiel | 4 | 77 | 13 | 1 | 3.25 | 0.25 |
| Villarreal, Armando | 17 | 385 | 53 | 3 | 3.12 | 0.18 |
| Total | 375 | 9142 | 1309 | 89 | 3.30 | 0.26 |
There are many differences between Cyle Larin and Jozy Altidore. Altidore is a 28-year-old American striker, who has played professionally in the U.S., England, Spain, the Netherlands, and Turkey. Larin is a 22-year-old Canadian, and still with his first club. The Canadian has five international goals in 21 games, while the American has scored 42 times for the U.S. in 113 games.
Larin is still young though and so those numbers may eventually even out. The biggest difference though is that Altidore falls to the ground when a defender approaches him and yells for a foul, while Larin generally stays on his feet and aims to play the ball. This leads to Jozy getting more fouls as defenders continue to climb all over Larin.
This is a problem across the league. There are some players that continually get more calls than others and the officiating is not consistent throughout. However, this is not only an MLS problem, but a sports problem. LeBron James gets more calls in his favor than say Elfrid Payton. Tom Brady gets more calls than Trevor Siemian. Some players will always get more calls than others and that is a problem.
In soccer there are still more issues that have slowly been killing the game. Players falling to the ground as a time-wasting measure and flopping are the two biggest. Referees need to focus on these aspects of the game as well as consistently making the same calls.
Inconsistency among PRO officials between games, and even in the same game, is a huge issue. When this happens, the game is no longer fair, and players and coaches will make sure that the officials and the league know it. Tempers will flare and the game will become more aggressive, leading to more cards but also to injures. The most important part of the ref’s job is to keep players safe, and being inconsistent puts that job in jeopardy.
These were just a few of the issues with the officiating in MLS. I will later look at some solutions as well as some specific games officials have made the wrong calls.
Post in the comments and vote on what you think are the biggest issues with PRO.
Polling Closed
| Player | Votes |
| Inconsistency between referees. | 8 |
| Players being allowed to waste time. | 4 |
| Players being allowed to flop. | 4 |
| Referees getting the calls wrong. | 9 |
| Other. | 3 |
Podcasts
PawedCast Episode 515: Orlando City Transfers, Preseason Schedule, OCB Signings, and More
We’re back to discuss Orlando City’s transfer news and rumors, OCB roster additions, and the preseason schedule.
Orlando City has gathered for preseason camp ahead of the 2026 season, and we’re still here to talk about it. How long that continues to be the case may unknown at this point, but we’re trending in the right direction, so if that continues, you’re stuck with us for a while longer.
The Lions have had various comings and goings since our last show, and we discuss the movement in and out of the roster. We thought Carlos Coronel was going to be the new Orlando City starter in goal, but he fled to Brazil, so we welcome Canadian international Maxime Crepeau to the City Beautiful. It’s not as splashy an addition, but it could be just as effective a roster move if he can regain his form from his Vancouver and LAFC days.
We also discussed the additions of Tiago, Luis Otavio, and Braian Ojeda. On the other hand, departures took place as well, such as Nico Rodriguez being loaned to Atletico Nacional and the reports that Luis Muriel may be finalizing a deal to move on. We chatted about what those moves mean in the grand scheme of things. Kyle Smith went home and we are glad he’s still playing but sad to see him in another team’s uniform.
The preseason schedule was a bit underwhelming, but we ran through it quickly.
Our mailbagbox was a little light, and it proved to us how little we know about the Polish national team. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
Finally, we talked a bit about the recent moves OCB has made, including the addition of a Brazilian striker. Former OCB forward Shak Mohammed is off to Nashville, while OCB/OCSC left wing Yutaro Tsukada showed up to preseason camp with a wedding ring. Congrats to Yutaro!
Note: we are now in our off-season podcast schedule, which is guaranteed to give you at least one episode per month but we will only be weekly if/when news warrants it. We’ll also return for at least one more show to say goodbye if things don’t work out for us to continue, but we are hoping it doesn’t come to that!
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Here’s how No. 515 went down:
0:15 – An update on our staffing crisis is more hopeful than the last one, and we go through the various arrivals and departures.
30:16 – The mailbagbox seeks help for Orlando City from Poland and wants to know which position we’d least like to see the club make a Designated Player signing.
41:52 – OCB news, a new home for Shak, and Tsukada ties the knot.
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A Few Words About the Future of The Mane Land
TML needs help to continue bringing you coverage of Orlando City, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and all things soccer related in the City Beautiful.
For the last 11 years, The Mane Land has worked hard to provide daily content telling the story of Orlando City SC, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and any other soccer-related events we can get to in the Central Florida area. We love doing that, but we’re at a critical stage in being able to do so. Staff has been difficult to replace in recent years, and we’ve come to a point where some of us have not only been stretched to an unsustainable limit, but we’ve been going at that rate for multiple years without a break.
To that point, TML is now at a critical juncture where we must have more contributors who can cover live events in order to survive in our current format (and possibly at all). For the past few years, we have had only two primary game night writers covering three teams, and we are unable to continue at that pace, regardless of how much we enjoy doing it.
To continue as an entity, we’re going to need anywhere from two to four new contributors who can pitch in with game-night coverage of Orlando City/Orlando Pride matches. Additionally, another copy editor is essential, while two more would be preferred.
We’d like to continue into 2026, but if we can’t get the additional help we need, the current plan is to shut down at the end of the 2025 calendar year. The minimum we need to carry on would be two new live event writers and a copy editor.
What does this mean? Well, if you’ve ever thought it would be cool to cover soccer matches (it is) or thought about joining us, now is the time to volunteer. If you enjoy soccer and talking about this club with your friends, you might be perfect for our team, because if you can talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Writing is just talking on a screen with your fingers, after all.
To get started, please write to us at themaneland@gmail.com and let us know how you’d like to contribute — writing, editing, etc.
It is important to note that we do this out of a love for the beautiful game and these positions are on a voluntary basis. However, if freed from the shackles of such an overwhelming schedule, my goal is to spend more time creating strategic partnerships and promoting our membership platform that could combine to bring in revenue that would go toward compensating staff writers. Additionally, some of our staff members have gone on to more financially rewarding opportunities as a result of their time with us. You never know what this experience will lead to. Like anything else in life, you’re likely to get out of it what you put in.
The good news is that we have already reached out to our Founders and our Buy Me a Coffee subscribers about this subject, and several have shown an interest in helping, so we are in the process of exploring those potential contributors at the moment.
We Are Currently Seeking:
- Match writers – You don’t need a degree in journalism or English to write for us. If you like to talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Staff writers contribute regularly to our game coverage, which could be in the form of recaps, player grades pieces, five takeaways posts, etc. We have a need for this on both the Orlando City and Pride sides, and you can do both if you want. If you’re not local to the Orlando area, you can cover road matches via the broadcast/stream.
- Editors – Can you spot a subject/verb disagreement from a mile away? An editor position may be for you! How often do you get to correct people without anyone shaming you for it? This position will edit copy for submitted stories, make headlines punchier and more SEO-friendly, and ensure the story has a properly cropped/centered photo that helps tell the story. Typically you’ll only be on “desk duty” one or two evenings per week when it fits your schedule. You may also write stories if you wish!
About TML
Our little blog became an idea and then an independent WordPress site in late September of 2014, and went live on SBNation in December of that year. When SBNation stopped funding nearly all of its MLS blogs a few years ago, we went independent again, and we’ve long been the only outlet providing daily coverage of Orlando City’s teams. Even the club doesn’t post new content to its website every day!
FAQ
Why shutter the site at the end of December? Why do you need help now when the season doesn’t start for a couple of months?
Preparing to cover three teams requires advance planning. Each year, we put together a publication schedule to ensure all our bases are covered. This includes what will run (a placeholder or sometimes the specific piece) on every day of the year, which obviously doesn’t take into account breaking news or extra features that people want to do. Setting up this publication schedule also includes noting when major soccer events are coming, known USMNT/USWNT scheduled matches, MLS and NWSL deadlines, player birthdays, important milestones and anniversaries, and more. We also put together volunteer sign-up sheets for grades and takeaways posts. That setup work is all for naught if we don’t have the bodies to physically cover the team when the season starts. Also, it’s easier to pull the plug on our LLC at the end of a calendar year. None of us want to stop, but we have to be realistic about being able to continue covering the team as we have.
Why not just scale back and cover what you can? Do you have to cover every game?
I don’t have a good answer for this other than I would not feel right about putting my name on a product I don’t believe in. I don’t ever want our audience to have to guess whether or not they’re getting a game recap or any follow-up analysis from a given match. In my opinion, we have never had the personnel to fully provide what I envision. For example, I want to add more video content, player grades and recaps for the Pride games, and to bring back weekend Lion Links and OCB match previews. And we should have a lot more features and analysis pieces! In short, we’re already doing the bare minimum that I’m comfortable with. And, I have to be honest: if there was a game coming up with no one to cover it, knowing me, I’d probably just do it myself, and I already know I can’t continue the pace of the past few years. I have to save me from myself sometimes.
Could The Mane Land continue in a different form?
I have toyed with the idea of turning TML into a newsletter. This might be a daily that includes a Lion Links-type section and opinion/analysis of club news. It would not include match coverage or any kind of regular news. I almost pivoted to that when SBNation stopped funding us, but we decided to make a go of it as an independent outlet. The problem with the newsletter style is that I can’t do it daily every single day or it would be no different than the situation I’m in, so some help would still be needed. Some of that could come from the current TML staff, but I’m not sure all of it could, and the newsletter format is not for everyone, so we’d be leaving part of our audience behind. I’m not sure it’s the way to go.
Is new management or investment needed?
Possibly. I am willing to sell the name and logo and turn over all our passwords for someone else to take over the operations, which would free up a considerable amount of my time. I’m even willing to continue on as a writing and editing contributor, because I love covering the club. Some of the other staff might as well. But I would not be interested in covering every single match. I’m not a kid anymore, and I have a regular job, a family, and other side gigs that require my attention.
Will you still do the podcasts if the site shuts down?
No. I think if we decide to shut down, it will be across the board. I much prefer our written content, and that’s the reason I started our outlet to begin with. I feel the podcasts complement our coverage and give us more of an opinion platform and a way to discuss matches in a deeper, richer way, but I’m not interested in doing only the podcasts. That said, others on our staff might want to continue and I’m OK with that.
Contact us at themaneland@gmail.com today to get started as a new contributor!
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PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More
The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.
Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.
We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote
This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.
OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.
Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.
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Here’s how No. 506 went down:
0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!
27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.
39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.
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