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A Look at PRO, Part 1: How Orlando City Fared Before and After Jason Kreis’ Comments



This is the first of a two-part series that examines the Professional Referee Organization (PRO). The purpose of the series is to take a look at the United States’ referees’ data, as well as some individual performances, to see the effectiveness of PRO’s officials. An important question that will constantly be brought up is, “Are PRO officials correctly adhering to the laws of the game, and if not, how can it be fixed?”

This first part will focus on referee stats and some common miscalls. Video Assistant Referee (VAR) will be briefly discussed but the subject of video review and VAR is not the focus. Also, it is important to note that when looking at officials’ stats it can only be seen what calls they did make. Therefore, they are only good to a certain point because they do not take into account the number of calls that were missed. In the next part I will go into individual games.

Since Orlando City has joined MLS there has been a stigma around the club and supporters that the referees do not call their games fairly. Both of the club’s managers, Adrian Heath and Jason Kreis — as well as players and fans — have voiced their displeasure over the officiating. From the Geiger Show to Ted Unkel, there seems to be some truth to this matter.

Back on June 4 was the perhaps the tipping point for Kreis when Unkel issued two straight reds to Orlando City players in a 0-0 draw against the Chicago Fire. The first (shown below) was to Rafael Ramos in the 26th minute and it could be argued that there was no foul at all.

About 41 minutes later, Antonio Nocerino was issued a red, on which even the Fire’s Michael de Leeuw looked surprised at the call. It was definitely a foul as Noce was late but the Italian was clearly playing the ball and Matt Polster jumped in front of Nocerino at the last minute.

While this was just one game, calls like this seem to go against the Lions too often, and led to Kreis calling out the officials over it after Orlando’s 3-1 home loss to Toronto FC.

The number of times that we’ve had defenders draped all over Cyle Larin in the box and he goes down and we don’t get penalty kicks for that…the number of times that we’ve had inadvertent handballs in the penalty box that we don’t get calls for but yet [Kaka] sticks his arm up a few games ago and gets a penalty kick called against him…it’s so many occasions now that I just can’t bear it anymore. The decision for the foul that [Sebastian] Giovinco scores the goal tonight to make the third goal for me was absolutely ridiculous. There’s no chance that our player gets that same foul called and we saw it time and time again tonight where our players were in those exact same positions, went down, and did not get the call.”

First I broke down the stats into two categories — Pre-Kreis and Post-Kreis comments — to look to see if the coach’s comments changed the way the officials called Orlando’s games.

Officials’ Stats: Pre-Kreis Comments
RefereeGamesFouls Against Orlando CityFouls Against the OppositionYellow Cards to Orlando CityYellow Cards to the OppositionRed Cards to Orlando CityRed Cards to the Opposition
Bazakos, Fotis114123200
Chapman, Allen17132200
Elfath, Ismail239305300
Fischer, Drew110181400
Geiger, Mark118132200
Gonzalez, Jorge115224300
Kelly, Alan11172200
Marrufo, Jair210125600
Penso, Chris220242500
Rivero, Jose Carlos110132100
Saghafi, Nima114180500
Salazar, Ricardo1972300
Sibiga, Robert227255500
Stoica, Sorin112181300
Toledo, Baldomero113162300
Unkel, Ted 18140220

Looking at the table above, it is actually interesting to see that the officials called fewer fouls against the Lions, who were given fewer cards than the opposition. Orlando was given two red cards, which both came thanks to Mr. Unkel’s antics. Orlando’s opponents averaged .65 more cards per game than Orlando, and 1.25 more fouls.

Official’s Stats: Post-Kreis Comments
RefereeGamesFouls Against Orlando CityFouls Against the OppositionYellow Cards to Orlando CityYellow Cards to the OppositionRed Cards to Orlando CityRed Cards to the Opposition
Chapman, Allen115142200
Dickerson, Joseph111160100
Gantar, Dave119164410
Gonzalez, Jorge116183410
Grajeda, Hilario110193100
Guzman, Juan117201401
Marrufo, Jair112120000
Penso, Chris110103100
Petrescu, Silviu116143501
Rivero, Jose Carlos18152300
Sibiga, Robert117224100
Stott, Kevin19130000
Toledo, Baldomero111163110
Villarreal, Armando111140200

After the Kreis comments the numbers changed a little. In the final 14 games, the referees called 37 more fouls on the Lions, or an extra 2.6 per game. The number of cards were even. Looking at the total official stats (below), and the average is about the same with Orlando and throughout the league. So, statistically, the referees fairly officiated Orlando City games. However, there also must go into consideration the fouls not called and the types of fouls called.

2017 Referee Stats
RefereeGamesFouls AwardedYellow CardsRed CardsYellows per gameReds per game
Bazakos, Fotis102644214.20.1
Chapman, Allen224857953.590.23
Chilowicz, Alex3741113.670.33
DeOliveira, Marcos49612030
Dickerson, Joseph1271010
Elfath, Ismail215626172.90.33
Fischer, Drew154035543.670.27
Gantar, Dave82022242.750.5
Geiger, Mark143633822.710.14
Gonzalez, Jorge143566164.360.43
Grajeda, Hilario1749068140.06
Guzman, Juan2598140.5
Kelly, Alan255948323.320.08
Marrakchi, Younes171111
Marrufo, Jair122542712.250.08
Penso, Chris2560710654.240.2
Petrescu, Silviu154106214.130.07
Rivero, Jose Carlos225298984.050.36
Saghafi, Nima133354933.770.23
Salazar, Ricardo214577043.330.19
Sibiga, Robert245678943.710.17
Stoica, Sorin133605023.850.15
Stott, Kevin203973931.950.15
Toledo, Baldomero2155282143.90.67
Unkel, Ted112303853.450.45
Vazquez, Rubiel4771313.250.25
Villarreal, Armando173855333.120.18

There are many differences between Cyle Larin and Jozy Altidore. Altidore is a 28-year-old American striker, who has played professionally in the U.S., England, Spain, the Netherlands, and Turkey. Larin is a 22-year-old Canadian, and still with his first club. The Canadian has five international goals in 21 games, while the American has scored 42 times for the U.S. in 113 games.

Larin is still young though and so those numbers may eventually even out. The biggest difference though is that Altidore falls to the ground when a defender approaches him and yells for a foul, while Larin generally stays on his feet and aims to play the ball. This leads to Jozy getting more fouls as defenders continue to climb all over Larin.

This is a problem across the league. There are some players that continually get more calls than others and the officiating is not consistent throughout. However, this is not only an MLS problem, but a sports problem. LeBron James gets more calls in his favor than say Elfrid Payton. Tom Brady gets more calls than Trevor Siemian. Some players will always get more calls than others and that is a problem.

In soccer there are still more issues that have slowly been killing the game. Players falling to the ground as a time-wasting measure and flopping are the two biggest. Referees need to focus on these aspects of the game as well as consistently making the same calls.

Inconsistency among PRO officials between games, and even in the same game, is a huge issue. When this happens, the game is no longer fair, and players and coaches will make sure that the officials and the league know it. Tempers will flare and the game will become more aggressive, leading to more cards but also to injures. The most important part of the ref’s job is to keep players safe, and being inconsistent puts that job in jeopardy.

These were just a few of the issues with the officiating in MLS. I will later look at some solutions as well as some specific games officials have made the wrong calls.

Post in the comments and vote on what you think are the biggest issues with PRO.

Polling Closed

Inconsistency between referees.8
Players being allowed to waste time. 4
Players being allowed to flop.4
Referees getting the calls wrong. 9


Reflecting on Eight Years with The Mane Land

A look back over my time with The Mane Land (so far).



Nick Leyva, The Mane Land

As of last week, I have been a contributor at The Mane Land for eight years. That’s longer than I’ve ever been at any of my actual jobs in my life. There are literally only a couple of people who have been with the site longer, but I’m still amazed at how long it’s been. This is not to say I’m going anywhere, but rather I wanted to take the opportunity to look back at the past eight years, and look ahead to the future.

Unlike some, I didn’t come to be a supporter of Orlando City until it was announced that the club was joining MLS. At the time, I was contemplating picking a club to follow in MLS, but being in Tallahassee, there were no nearby options at that time. I considered FC Dallas and D.C. United, given the two were geographically closer in proximity to me than any others. Fortunately, it was literally while I was considering my options that the announcement was made regarding Orlando City’s jump to MLS. It was an easy decision.

As I do in many aspects of my life, I immediately started researching my new club, which led me to the content being produced by The Mane Land. There was also an article on the site titled “Join The Mane Land Staff.” I had often over the years internally bemoaned that I rarely used my Bachelor’s degree in English, and the desire to write welled up in me so much that I emailed the staff. 

In response, one of our former editors, Andrew Marcinko, contacted me and said “I think your voice would be a great fit on TML.” He asked me to submit a Fan Post (those went away with our presence on SBN), and then another piece for review. Following that, our founder and managing editor, Michael Citro, emailed me to welcome me to the staff. I had no idea at the time how big a part of my life this blog would become.

I started out writing Monday’s Lions Links — often one of the more difficult days to write — and a feature piece. It’s been many years gone by now, but there was a time when the feature piece was “Pride Pub,” an ongoing series that paired craft beer and good food based on Orlando City’s opponent. I can tell you that the research for that was very enjoyable, and I still use some of the recipes I found to this day.

Eventually, I started contributing more match coverage and analytical pieces. Staff came and went, but I never thought to leave since I was enjoying myself. Sometime after that, I was promoted to senior columnist, for which I’m grateful. I can without reservation say that I’m a better writer thanks to my time with the site, and from working with such excellent staff.

In November of 2016, Michael asked if I wanted to give co-hosting The Mane Land PawedCast a try. My first recording was for Episode 71. We just recorded Episode 354, and with the exception of maybe two or three episodes, I have been on every single one of 283 episodes over the last six plus years. Michael and I have spent a lot of time talking on and off the podcast over the years, and I’m proud of what we have produced and to call him my friend.

We recently added an Orlando Pride-specific podcast called Skopurp: An Orlando Pride PawedCast. For years we wanted to give the Pride the time and attention the club deserves. Now, it is a reality, but one that I ask you to listen to and share. I’ll even put out that although Michael and I are the current hosts, we merely consider ourselves stewards and are hoping to get others to come onboard and eventually take it to the next level.

When I started with The Mane Land, the site had just made the move from a free WordPress site to the SBNation network. It was a big deal, and for many years it was a good partnership. Of course that all came to an end not too long ago, and our blog went the independent route thanks to the incredibly generous support of our readers and listeners. In fact, if you want to be one of those supporting our efforts, please go to our Buy Me A Coffee site to become a member. The move has allowed a flexibility we didn’t have before, but I really want others to have the same sense of joy and accomplishment that I have as a member of our staff. 

At one point we had nearly twice the staff that we do now, and as you know, many hands make light work. The opposite of that is also true. I genuinely believe that there must be others out there with the same passion for Orlando City as I have — with the same desire to have their voice heard, whether through the written word or on a podcast. I promise you there is an opportunity to contribute here with us. Our internal discussions are informative, engaging, and often funny. Please consider joining us, as I did eight years ago. I haven’t regretted it and I know you won’t either.

I want to thank all of those who contributed to The Mane Land over the years. There are many that I am still in touch with, though they are no longer a part of the staff. Of course, the current staff are a pleasure to work with, and I appreciate their dedication to what we are trying to do.

Finally, I want to thank the readers and listeners over the years. From those who regularly comment on our articles, to those that I’ve personally met at matches or even randomly on the street, you are a big reason that we do all of this. You are a big reason why I’ve been doing this for the better part of a decade. it is always a genuine pleasure hearing your thoughts or simply sharing a moment of joy together — U.S. Open Cup final, anyone?

So, thank you. I look forward to many more years of this journey together.

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The Mane Land Announces Membership Program

Maximize your Mane Land experience with our new TML membership program while supporting our independent efforts.



Hello, readers of The Mane Land and listeners of our podcasts. Before you start reading this, please note that the most important part of this post is at the end. So, don’t stop until you get to the bottom.

You may recall that when we left SBNation to become independent, we really weren’t sure the best way to go about that. Many of our readers and listeners generously offered to help us make that transition, but we still weren’t sure the best path forward, so we took a poll.

The poll was pretty much split down the middle between those who preferred a one-time, Kickstarter-style campaign (which we did, and those of you who stepped up to help completely blew us away!) and those who favored a Patreon-style, subscription-based membership with extra perks. In fact, the member subscriptions option got a few more votes in our poll.

The folks who took part in our GoFundMe fundraiser were fantastic and are now immortalized on this very site on the “Our Founders” page. But we had always planned to give folks the option to choose whichever method of support they preferred and we tried to communicate that throughout the process. It took a little longer than expected to get up and running, but our membership subscription program is now in place! (You may notice the fancy new banner ad about it on the home page, echoed below.)

Supporting TML helps build a better TML for you to enjoy, so you’re really subscribing to your own Orlando soccer fandom.

Part of that delay was thinking up something that didn’t encroach on the benefits we gave our Founders. Those folks helped us get started and deserve the exclusivity of the perks they got. The other part of the delay is that there just aren’t enough hours in the day. (However, for you guys, I’m willing to be cloned.)

We have utilized the popular Buy Me a Coffee platform to run this program. You can find the basics here. The Mane Land premium membership program includes three tiers of membership, as well as the option to click on the “Support” tab for those who just want to help us out whenever, without joining the program or adding any recurring “appointment-based” payments to their budgets. We love that feature of Buy Me a Coffee (or “Buy Us a Beer” in our case…you drink what you like).

For those who do choose to become members, we hope we have provided value and we are planning to add benefits along the way, in addition to providing special giveaways, events, etc. (more on that below). We have also provided subscription options — with monthly or annual memberships. The annual cost essentially gives you 12 months for the price of 10.

Current Benefits

The current membership benefits depend on which level of support you choose — Homegrown Player, TAM Player, or Designated Player level. Each level includes all benefits from the lower tiers, with additional benefits for each higher level.

Homegrown Player: This is a basic set-it-and-forget-it level of support for The Mane Land, providing a way for our readers and podcast listeners to contribute to the success of TML‘s independence goals. We want to compensate our current volunteers, replace lost income of those who previously received small stipends from being part of the SBNation network, add photographers, attract new writers, and expand our coverage. Additionally, each Homegrown Player Level member will be recognized in a Lion Links column, which is still typically our most widely read post of each day and one of the top daily links columns among soccer sites. Homegrown Player Level members will also be included in any future prize drawings we have or events we host and may be subject to future benefits as they are added.

TAM Player: In addition to Homegrown Player benefits, TAM Players will receive a new weekly e-newsletter in their inbox (unless you opt out…some people hate email). These will be informal missives from myself, other TML writers, or a combination, discussing what’s on our mind regarding Orlando City, the Pride, OCB, or soccer in general. Think of it as an extra post from our site that may cover multiple topics. Additionally, you’ll get a 10% discount from our web shop items that we control (presently, that means everything except our listed MLS Shop items). We will definitely have more benefits coming for this level soon and will look for opportunities to include additional benefits as they become available.

Designated Player: This limited availability level of support includes all perks from the Homegrown and TAM levels, but it goes beyond. Your discount at our webshop (for items we control) will be 15% off. Additionally, we’ll send you Zoom links to watch us “make the doughnuts” whenever we record the podcast. This includes when we interview guests. You’ll see how the sausage is made behind the scenes and everything that we say, some of which will end up on the cutting room floor before the final podcast is sent out. This includes both The Mane Land PawedCast and SkoPurp Soccer: An Orlando Pride PawedCast. And after two months of membership you can commission a bonus episode of either podcast simply by letting us know what topic you want us to cover. Think of this as an extended Ask Us Anything. We’ll do a whole show about your topic and you can even join us to discuss it if you wish.

The DP Level will certainly have additional benefits tacked on as we move forward. It is currently limited to 40 members but could be expanded slightly depending on demand and our Zoom attendance.

Future Benefits / Benefits Under Consideration

While we won’t be able to schedule these due to the random nature of items falling into our hands, there will be periodic prize giveaways in drawings that include all of our members, regardless of level. The catch is that you get one entry per level of support, meaning Homegrown Player Level members will get one entry per prize drawing, TAM Player Level members will get two entries per drawing, and Designated Player Level members get three entries for prize drawings. Some of the kinds of items we have come across in the past include match tickets, trinkets, posters, scarves, and so on.

We are planning to add a message board to our website, well…soon-ish is the word that comes to mind. The plan for the message board is to build our community and further the discussion about the club. As part of this, we’re planning an exclusive, members-only area of that message board that TAM and DP members can access. This will be a place our staff can share informational nuggets we can’t necessarily write stories about for various reasons and interact with our members on a daily basis.

Other things in the works include meet-and-greets/watch parties where you can chat with TML staff members and catch a road match with a bunch of like-minded Orlando City/Pride fans while we all cheer on the team together. There may also be other informal outings with one or more members of the staff, organized fantasy leagues, random Zoom calls for Q&A sessions, and perhaps even some organized group outings for Orlando City / Pride matches, national team games, etc.

The Most Important Part of This Post

Remember at the top of this post, when I said the most important part is at the bottom? Well, that seems like a long time ago, now, so it’s OK if you’ve already forgotten.

The most important part of our membership program is you. We want your feedback so we can make this program something that interests and excites you. We want to know what you like and dislike about this program. We want to know if there are some things we didn’t think of that interest you. If you like what we’re offering, tell us! If you hate what we’re offering, we want to know what you’d prefer instead or in addition. If you want to go drinking with Dave, we can probably arrange that, but it’ll be a unique tier and we’ll have to figure out the cost of that.

No idea is too crazy to suggest, even if it’s too insane for us to actually offer. Let us know what you want from your subscription and we’ll see if that’s something we can do. We’ll make it easy for you by putting the form right here below this post, which is now concluded.

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Welcome Home!



Where do I even start? When we were told in January that SBNation was pulling its support of The Mane Land and other MLS and NHL blogs — and many podcasts — I was devastated. The site had become my new baby in September of 2014 and after eight and a half years, I wasn’t ready to let it go.

I was in a pickle. I couldn’t afford to lose the monthly stipend I had been getting from SBNation to manage the site and provide a steady stream of content. It wasn’t that it was a huge monthly sum, but it mostly covered my car payment. That car was purchased when my salary was higher. The pandemic hit my day job like it did to many, and after a four-month layoff, I got my old job back but not at the same rate. So, imagine taking a pay decrease at work and then, on top of that, losing the amount you spend per month on your car payment. There was simply no way to launch The Mane Land independently, I thought, because I simply couldn’t cover the startup costs. Even with some generous offers from the staff to pitch in, there simply wasn’t a way.

Once we took the news public, there was an outpouring of support on social media. We appreciated both the pledges to help out that we got from the community and the signal boosting that the national media gave blogs like ours. Those national folks rely on local reporting for background.

Encouraged by this outpouring of public support, I met with the TML staff and we threw some ideas around. We polled our Twitter followers to see how our community would prefer to show their support. We got pretty close to a 50/50 split between those who wanted to provide a one-time donation via a Kickstarter or GoFundMe crowdsourcing effort, and those who would prefer some sort of premium subscription add-on service like Patreon or Buy Me a Coffee.

We didn’t get a lot of responses to that poll, but we decided as a group that since the results were so similar, we would offer both and let the public choose one path, the other, or even both. (Stay tuned for news soon-ish on the premium subscription level, but rest assured, everything you’ve been getting for free at TML will remain free!)

I was, admittedly, skeptical that we could raise enough startup money to create a private business, pay for hosting a new site and two podcasts (having long wanted to give the Orlando Pride their own unique show), registering a domain, paying for some design work and consulting, and any unexpected expenses that might come up. However, I thought we’d at least give it a try.

Then the amazing Orlando City, Orlando Pride, and TML community got involved. You guys pushed us past our bare minimum goal in just four and a half hours when our fundraiser went live on March 1. We reset our goal and you met that by midnight. We reset our goal again, to the dream total we discussed on our initial staff Zoom chat and you met that by that first weekend.

Stunned. Humbled. Amazed. Touched. All of these words apply to how that made us feel, but they don’t quite cover it. I think we all felt an enormous responsibility, as well. We felt a mandate to provide you the best site and the best coverage we can.

We got everything we needed to run the site for two years, even if we don’t earn a penny after our launch — and we plan to try, via advertising, a Patreon (or similar) program, an online shop, affiliate links, and anything else we can think of. But we decided to leave the GoFundMe open through the end of March, just in case there were folks who wanted to contribute but needed to wait for payday, or if more people wanted to become founding members of this new site.

Now, here we are. You guys did this. We’re here because of you. And this site isn’t quite what it will become. I’m still learning my way around WordPress, after being away from it for years. There’s more to build, and some of the things you’re seeing on this site now will be improved in the future. We’ll continue to tweak it, add things, and upgrade as we go.

For now, I just want to welcome you to your new online home. On behalf of our entire staff, I thank our founding members, who are now immortalized on this site in our founders section. If you weren’t able to contribute to our transition from SBNation’s network to an autonomous and independent, new version of The Mane Land, you can thank the folks on our founders page, because without them, we wouldn’t be here. And if you still want to help out, we’ve got more things on the way.


Michael Citro
Managing Editor

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