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Five Knee-jerk Reactions to Orlando City’s Knee-jerk Reaction

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So, the #KreisOut crowd got what it wanted and it could turn out to be the Best. Thing. EVAR! Or we could see another rebuild, leaving the Lions at home during playoff time for the next year or two. Only time will tell.

As a former public relations practitioner in professional sports (about 10 combined years in minor league hockey and the NHL), I enjoy the new terminology used today, such as “lower body injury,” and yes, “mutually agreed to part ways.” It’s possible that Jason Kreis came to management and said “Hey, I really don’t want to coach this team anymore, can we just end this?” But the likelihood is that Kreis was fired after the team’s sixth consecutive MLS loss. So, the coach that gave the club its longest ever MLS win streak — and wasn’t rewarded for it — was most likely punished for the club’s longest ever MLS losing streak.

It’s hard to imagine this happening had the team gone W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L-W-L, but whatever. It’s done and we thank Jason for his contributions to building this roster from what it was and for the good moments — the aforementioned win streak, some incredible Cardiac Cats moments, the 6-1 beatdown of New England last season, and so on. Every coach and every player is part of the team’s history and Kreis’ panel in the team’s quilt is fully stitched.

Here are five off-the-cuff reactions I had to the news. Let me stress this again…these are not fully formed thoughts…just the first things that popped into my head and I’m sure after further reflection there will be some drift from what is below.

Orlando City Leadership is Fickle

The leadership of Orlando City has shown it has zero patience. Adrian Heath was named the club’s first MLS coach and he and management ostensibly had a three-year plan to make the club a playoff team with a chance to compete deep into the postseason. Heath was given a year and a half of that three years and was let go on the heels of a six-game MLS unbeaten streak that ended with a lopsided loss in Dallas on July 4, 2016. Sure, there was also a 2-1 loss to Fort Lauderdale in the U.S. Open Cup in there, but anyone who watched that game saw a dominating performance by Orlando that night. Cupsets are a thing, and it happened to the Lions that night on PC’s stunner at the death of extra time, after the Lions had out-shot the Strikers by 20 (!) after halftime and spent nearly the whole game in the attacking half. I think Hadji Barry hit every part of the goal frame in that second half. Oh, and Heath’s firing came during the transfer window, when players who may be on the move would probably like to know who they’re playing for.

Kreis was let go with his team still in playoff position — a spot he helped lead the team to by way of that six-game winning streak. The winning streak came with most of the roster fully fit and in form. He and his staff aren’t completely blameless, of course, but the losing streak certainly did not feature an optimal lineup for most of it. Much of it was played on the road with no Dom Dwyer, no Yoshimar Yotún, and the following back lines:

  • Mohamed El-Munir, Amro Tarek, Lamine Sané, Will Johnson vs. Atlanta.
  • Mohamed El-Munir, Amro Tarek, Lamine Sané, Will Johnson at Toronto.
  • Mohamed El-Munir, Tony Rocha, Chris Schuler, RJ Allen vs. Chicago.
  • Donny Toia, Tony Rocha, RJ Allen, Will Johnson at New York City FC.
  • Mohamed El-Munir, Amro Tarek, Chris Schuler, Will Johnson at Vancouver.
  • Tony Rocha, Amro Tarek, Jonathan Spector, RJ Allen at Montreal.

I mean, giving the mostly returned roster a game or two doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

There Was No Plan in Place

Kreis’ departure is followed by Bobby Murphy’s second stint as the Lions’ interim coach. Orlando City announced that Murphy will serve as coach “ while the club conducts a comprehensive search for a new head coach.”

This is a different tactic than New York City FC used. Sure, the situations are different, but as soon as there were suitors for Patrick Vieira’s services, the Pigeons were proactive, worked quickly, and when Vieira left, the club reported that it would be announcing a new coach in the coming days.

Orlando went another way. Saying you’re going to conduct a comprehensive search indicates that nothing is imminent, so it’s essentially admitting to not having things narrowed down. Last time out, Kreis was hired after three matches had been played under Murphy and his first match on the sideline came after a fourth match under Murphy (who went 0-1-3 in those four). Admittedly, it was pretty quick last time, all things considered, but those conversations were likely starting to take place before Heath’s 3-0-3 run, after the team’s 2-3-5 start. It will be interesting to see how long this one takes.

The Timing is Terrible

In addition to the aforementioned return of several key players either just coming back or who soon will be, there is this: In a few weeks’ time, there will be a series of coaching maneuvers, as the group stage of the World Cup comes to an end. This will have a trickle-down effect and will likely affect the availability of various potential replacements. I’m not saying that some national team manager currently in the World Cup would be Kreis’ ultimate replacement — but it can’t be ruled out, either. But some of those coaches will likely take other jobs after the World Cup and that would free up other coaches who could be interested in MLS positions. A wait until early July may have produced better available candidates.

There are two league matches left for Orlando City in June and one U.S. Open Cup game. Those two weeks, plus perhaps the July 7 match at LAFC may have bought just enough time to either have a top candidate in place more or less immediately, or, perhaps, given the team time to regain its cohesion and eliminate the need to find a replacement.

Is Orlando City an Undesirable Job?

MLS is this nation’s top flight and those jobs will always be attractive. However, some coaches — let’s say someone like Caleb Porter — might have other options and may be patient enough not to jump at the chance to come to Orlando. This is especially true after the way the club has fired its last two managers. The message sent by both firings is clear. You’ve got from about a year to a year and a half, and then we’re done waiting and we won’t tolerate losing streaks, even if your team is in playoff position. This might seem a desirable trait from the front office but in sports it’s not all that realistic.

Every season has ebbs and flows. Atlanta recently went through a spell of one win out of four and, as much as I hate to say it, that’s the best team in MLS this season.

Will a Rebuild Be Necessary?

I’ll finish with what my first thought actually was at hearing the news. Orlando City has an enticing roster. However, it also has a number of key (and expensive) pieces who may not fit in some other coaches’ systems. Sacha Kljestan is 32 and will turn 33 before the end of the season. He was just jettisoned this past off-season by a team that likes to play a high-energy pressing game. Justin Meram is 29 and has not looked comfortable in a 4-4-2. For that matter, a 4-4-2 hasn’t been the best shape for Dwyer. Similarly, Yotún has been pretty good no matter the shape or style, but he’s shown to be an especially dangerous piece as a defensive midfielder in the 4-2-3-1.

So, enticing roster or not, the next coach may not find some of these pieces to his liking. That would necessitate a rebuild. Those realistically take at least two transfer windows and this club has shown it lacks the patience for such things.


All of these thoughts are more or less stream of consciousness. I’m sure I’ll process this more in the coming days.

This will no doubt surprise some readers here — though it probably shouldn’t — but just because I have not been aboard the #KreisOut bandwagon, it doesn’t mean I agreed with every decision or supported the coach unconditionally. My stance has remained consistent with regard to Kreis’ employment in 2018 and I’ve been saying it since the 0-2-1 start: let’s get to the All-Star break and see where Orlando City is. If Kreis isn’t getting it done by then, it’s fair to make a move.

As a writer covering the team, I was never fond of his habit of not answering questions about individual players (which was fine if they played well, but seemed taboo when they didn’t) and I especially hated the opaque injury reports we got this season.

I would have preferred a move to a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 last season, as the personnel didn’t seem to fit the 4-4-2. But I also had my doubts about the personnel in 2017 anyway, it just seemed more likely to have success in other shapes. I also thought when Dom went down this year that a return to the 4-4-2 was warranted because it was the entire reason Uri Rosell was brought in and no one player seemed capable of replacing Dwyer (and that proved to be true).

I wasn’t always crazy about his lineup choices, and was surprised to see Meram in the starting XI at Montreal given his Vancouver game performance, though I’ve generally been more forgiving of Meram’s ups and downs this season than many fans because…well, look at that ball he played in for Rocha on Wednesday that Dom should have finished. He can do that at any moment, kind of like when Kaká was having one of his stinkers.

However, I do have a great deal of respect for Kreis. He has always treated me well and has answered every question I’ve posed to him with what I believe to be the utmost candor and honesty. He’s intelligent. He loves the game. These are all fine traits. They are not, however, sufficient reasons to keep him if he didn’t fulfill what management expected of him. He may have ultimately done that by the end of this season and he may not have, but, again, we move on.

So, the Jason Kreis era is over and I am neither happy nor sad about it, but I’ll always wonder what would have happened three weeks down the road with perhaps a healthy Spector-Sané partnership, Scott Sutter at right back, and Dom having worked his way back into his pre-injury form.

My hope is that the club offered Kreis up as a sacrificial lamb to PRO in order to get some relief, but…yeah, probably not. (Insert smiley face emoticon here because it’s a joke, people.)

Feel free to blast away or let me know what you’re thinking tonight.

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Reflecting on Eight Years with The Mane Land

A look back over my time with The Mane Land (so far).

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Nick Leyva, The Mane Land

As of last week, I have been a contributor at The Mane Land for eight years. That’s longer than I’ve ever been at any of my actual jobs in my life. There are literally only a couple of people who have been with the site longer, but I’m still amazed at how long it’s been. This is not to say I’m going anywhere, but rather I wanted to take the opportunity to look back at the past eight years, and look ahead to the future.

Unlike some, I didn’t come to be a supporter of Orlando City until it was announced that the club was joining MLS. At the time, I was contemplating picking a club to follow in MLS, but being in Tallahassee, there were no nearby options at that time. I considered FC Dallas and D.C. United, given the two were geographically closer in proximity to me than any others. Fortunately, it was literally while I was considering my options that the announcement was made regarding Orlando City’s jump to MLS. It was an easy decision.

As I do in many aspects of my life, I immediately started researching my new club, which led me to the content being produced by The Mane Land. There was also an article on the site titled “Join The Mane Land Staff.” I had often over the years internally bemoaned that I rarely used my Bachelor’s degree in English, and the desire to write welled up in me so much that I emailed the staff. 

In response, one of our former editors, Andrew Marcinko, contacted me and said “I think your voice would be a great fit on TML.” He asked me to submit a Fan Post (those went away with our presence on SBN), and then another piece for review. Following that, our founder and managing editor, Michael Citro, emailed me to welcome me to the staff. I had no idea at the time how big a part of my life this blog would become.

I started out writing Monday’s Lions Links — often one of the more difficult days to write — and a feature piece. It’s been many years gone by now, but there was a time when the feature piece was “Pride Pub,” an ongoing series that paired craft beer and good food based on Orlando City’s opponent. I can tell you that the research for that was very enjoyable, and I still use some of the recipes I found to this day.

Eventually, I started contributing more match coverage and analytical pieces. Staff came and went, but I never thought to leave since I was enjoying myself. Sometime after that, I was promoted to senior columnist, for which I’m grateful. I can without reservation say that I’m a better writer thanks to my time with the site, and from working with such excellent staff.

In November of 2016, Michael asked if I wanted to give co-hosting The Mane Land PawedCast a try. My first recording was for Episode 71. We just recorded Episode 354, and with the exception of maybe two or three episodes, I have been on every single one of 283 episodes over the last six plus years. Michael and I have spent a lot of time talking on and off the podcast over the years, and I’m proud of what we have produced and to call him my friend.

We recently added an Orlando Pride-specific podcast called Skopurp: An Orlando Pride PawedCast. For years we wanted to give the Pride the time and attention the club deserves. Now, it is a reality, but one that I ask you to listen to and share. I’ll even put out that although Michael and I are the current hosts, we merely consider ourselves stewards and are hoping to get others to come onboard and eventually take it to the next level.

When I started with The Mane Land, the site had just made the move from a free WordPress site to the SBNation network. It was a big deal, and for many years it was a good partnership. Of course that all came to an end not too long ago, and our blog went the independent route thanks to the incredibly generous support of our readers and listeners. In fact, if you want to be one of those supporting our efforts, please go to our Buy Me A Coffee site to become a member. The move has allowed a flexibility we didn’t have before, but I really want others to have the same sense of joy and accomplishment that I have as a member of our staff. 

At one point we had nearly twice the staff that we do now, and as you know, many hands make light work. The opposite of that is also true. I genuinely believe that there must be others out there with the same passion for Orlando City as I have — with the same desire to have their voice heard, whether through the written word or on a podcast. I promise you there is an opportunity to contribute here with us. Our internal discussions are informative, engaging, and often funny. Please consider joining us, as I did eight years ago. I haven’t regretted it and I know you won’t either.

I want to thank all of those who contributed to The Mane Land over the years. There are many that I am still in touch with, though they are no longer a part of the staff. Of course, the current staff are a pleasure to work with, and I appreciate their dedication to what we are trying to do.

Finally, I want to thank the readers and listeners over the years. From those who regularly comment on our articles, to those that I’ve personally met at matches or even randomly on the street, you are a big reason that we do all of this. You are a big reason why I’ve been doing this for the better part of a decade. it is always a genuine pleasure hearing your thoughts or simply sharing a moment of joy together — U.S. Open Cup final, anyone?

So, thank you. I look forward to many more years of this journey together.

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The Mane Land Announces Membership Program

Maximize your Mane Land experience with our new TML membership program while supporting our independent efforts.

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Hello, readers of The Mane Land and listeners of our podcasts. Before you start reading this, please note that the most important part of this post is at the end. So, don’t stop until you get to the bottom.

You may recall that when we left SBNation to become independent, we really weren’t sure the best way to go about that. Many of our readers and listeners generously offered to help us make that transition, but we still weren’t sure the best path forward, so we took a poll.

The poll was pretty much split down the middle between those who preferred a one-time, Kickstarter-style campaign (which we did, and those of you who stepped up to help completely blew us away!) and those who favored a Patreon-style, subscription-based membership with extra perks. In fact, the member subscriptions option got a few more votes in our poll.

The folks who took part in our GoFundMe fundraiser were fantastic and are now immortalized on this very site on the “Our Founders” page. But we had always planned to give folks the option to choose whichever method of support they preferred and we tried to communicate that throughout the process. It took a little longer than expected to get up and running, but our membership subscription program is now in place! (You may notice the fancy new banner ad about it on the home page, echoed below.)

Supporting TML helps build a better TML for you to enjoy, so you’re really subscribing to your own Orlando soccer fandom.

Part of that delay was thinking up something that didn’t encroach on the benefits we gave our Founders. Those folks helped us get started and deserve the exclusivity of the perks they got. The other part of the delay is that there just aren’t enough hours in the day. (However, for you guys, I’m willing to be cloned.)

We have utilized the popular Buy Me a Coffee platform to run this program. You can find the basics here. The Mane Land premium membership program includes three tiers of membership, as well as the option to click on the “Support” tab for those who just want to help us out whenever, without joining the program or adding any recurring “appointment-based” payments to their budgets. We love that feature of Buy Me a Coffee (or “Buy Us a Beer” in our case…you drink what you like).

For those who do choose to become members, we hope we have provided value and we are planning to add benefits along the way, in addition to providing special giveaways, events, etc. (more on that below). We have also provided subscription options — with monthly or annual memberships. The annual cost essentially gives you 12 months for the price of 10.


Current Benefits

The current membership benefits depend on which level of support you choose — Homegrown Player, TAM Player, or Designated Player level. Each level includes all benefits from the lower tiers, with additional benefits for each higher level.

Homegrown Player: This is a basic set-it-and-forget-it level of support for The Mane Land, providing a way for our readers and podcast listeners to contribute to the success of TML‘s independence goals. We want to compensate our current volunteers, replace lost income of those who previously received small stipends from being part of the SBNation network, add photographers, attract new writers, and expand our coverage. Additionally, each Homegrown Player Level member will be recognized in a Lion Links column, which is still typically our most widely read post of each day and one of the top daily links columns among soccer sites. Homegrown Player Level members will also be included in any future prize drawings we have or events we host and may be subject to future benefits as they are added.

TAM Player: In addition to Homegrown Player benefits, TAM Players will receive a new weekly e-newsletter in their inbox (unless you opt out…some people hate email). These will be informal missives from myself, other TML writers, or a combination, discussing what’s on our mind regarding Orlando City, the Pride, OCB, or soccer in general. Think of it as an extra post from our site that may cover multiple topics. Additionally, you’ll get a 10% discount from our web shop items that we control (presently, that means everything except our listed MLS Shop items). We will definitely have more benefits coming for this level soon and will look for opportunities to include additional benefits as they become available.

Designated Player: This limited availability level of support includes all perks from the Homegrown and TAM levels, but it goes beyond. Your discount at our webshop (for items we control) will be 15% off. Additionally, we’ll send you Zoom links to watch us “make the doughnuts” whenever we record the podcast. This includes when we interview guests. You’ll see how the sausage is made behind the scenes and everything that we say, some of which will end up on the cutting room floor before the final podcast is sent out. This includes both The Mane Land PawedCast and SkoPurp Soccer: An Orlando Pride PawedCast. And after two months of membership you can commission a bonus episode of either podcast simply by letting us know what topic you want us to cover. Think of this as an extended Ask Us Anything. We’ll do a whole show about your topic and you can even join us to discuss it if you wish.

The DP Level will certainly have additional benefits tacked on as we move forward. It is currently limited to 40 members but could be expanded slightly depending on demand and our Zoom attendance.


Future Benefits / Benefits Under Consideration

While we won’t be able to schedule these due to the random nature of items falling into our hands, there will be periodic prize giveaways in drawings that include all of our members, regardless of level. The catch is that you get one entry per level of support, meaning Homegrown Player Level members will get one entry per prize drawing, TAM Player Level members will get two entries per drawing, and Designated Player Level members get three entries for prize drawings. Some of the kinds of items we have come across in the past include match tickets, trinkets, posters, scarves, and so on.

We are planning to add a message board to our website, well…soon-ish is the word that comes to mind. The plan for the message board is to build our community and further the discussion about the club. As part of this, we’re planning an exclusive, members-only area of that message board that TAM and DP members can access. This will be a place our staff can share informational nuggets we can’t necessarily write stories about for various reasons and interact with our members on a daily basis.

Other things in the works include meet-and-greets/watch parties where you can chat with TML staff members and catch a road match with a bunch of like-minded Orlando City/Pride fans while we all cheer on the team together. There may also be other informal outings with one or more members of the staff, organized fantasy leagues, random Zoom calls for Q&A sessions, and perhaps even some organized group outings for Orlando City / Pride matches, national team games, etc.


The Most Important Part of This Post

Remember at the top of this post, when I said the most important part is at the bottom? Well, that seems like a long time ago, now, so it’s OK if you’ve already forgotten.

The most important part of our membership program is you. We want your feedback so we can make this program something that interests and excites you. We want to know what you like and dislike about this program. We want to know if there are some things we didn’t think of that interest you. If you like what we’re offering, tell us! If you hate what we’re offering, we want to know what you’d prefer instead or in addition. If you want to go drinking with Dave, we can probably arrange that, but it’ll be a unique tier and we’ll have to figure out the cost of that.

No idea is too crazy to suggest, even if it’s too insane for us to actually offer. Let us know what you want from your subscription and we’ll see if that’s something we can do. We’ll make it easy for you by putting the form right here below this post, which is now concluded.

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Welcome Home!

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Where do I even start? When we were told in January that SBNation was pulling its support of The Mane Land and other MLS and NHL blogs — and many podcasts — I was devastated. The site had become my new baby in September of 2014 and after eight and a half years, I wasn’t ready to let it go.

I was in a pickle. I couldn’t afford to lose the monthly stipend I had been getting from SBNation to manage the site and provide a steady stream of content. It wasn’t that it was a huge monthly sum, but it mostly covered my car payment. That car was purchased when my salary was higher. The pandemic hit my day job like it did to many, and after a four-month layoff, I got my old job back but not at the same rate. So, imagine taking a pay decrease at work and then, on top of that, losing the amount you spend per month on your car payment. There was simply no way to launch The Mane Land independently, I thought, because I simply couldn’t cover the startup costs. Even with some generous offers from the staff to pitch in, there simply wasn’t a way.

Once we took the news public, there was an outpouring of support on social media. We appreciated both the pledges to help out that we got from the community and the signal boosting that the national media gave blogs like ours. Those national folks rely on local reporting for background.

Encouraged by this outpouring of public support, I met with the TML staff and we threw some ideas around. We polled our Twitter followers to see how our community would prefer to show their support. We got pretty close to a 50/50 split between those who wanted to provide a one-time donation via a Kickstarter or GoFundMe crowdsourcing effort, and those who would prefer some sort of premium subscription add-on service like Patreon or Buy Me a Coffee.

We didn’t get a lot of responses to that poll, but we decided as a group that since the results were so similar, we would offer both and let the public choose one path, the other, or even both. (Stay tuned for news soon-ish on the premium subscription level, but rest assured, everything you’ve been getting for free at TML will remain free!)

I was, admittedly, skeptical that we could raise enough startup money to create a private business, pay for hosting a new site and two podcasts (having long wanted to give the Orlando Pride their own unique show), registering a domain, paying for some design work and consulting, and any unexpected expenses that might come up. However, I thought we’d at least give it a try.

Then the amazing Orlando City, Orlando Pride, and TML community got involved. You guys pushed us past our bare minimum goal in just four and a half hours when our fundraiser went live on March 1. We reset our goal and you met that by midnight. We reset our goal again, to the dream total we discussed on our initial staff Zoom chat and you met that by that first weekend.

Stunned. Humbled. Amazed. Touched. All of these words apply to how that made us feel, but they don’t quite cover it. I think we all felt an enormous responsibility, as well. We felt a mandate to provide you the best site and the best coverage we can.

We got everything we needed to run the site for two years, even if we don’t earn a penny after our launch — and we plan to try, via advertising, a Patreon (or similar) program, an online shop, affiliate links, and anything else we can think of. But we decided to leave the GoFundMe open through the end of March, just in case there were folks who wanted to contribute but needed to wait for payday, or if more people wanted to become founding members of this new site.

Now, here we are. You guys did this. We’re here because of you. And this site isn’t quite what it will become. I’m still learning my way around WordPress, after being away from it for years. There’s more to build, and some of the things you’re seeing on this site now will be improved in the future. We’ll continue to tweak it, add things, and upgrade as we go.

For now, I just want to welcome you to your new online home. On behalf of our entire staff, I thank our founding members, who are now immortalized on this site in our founders section. If you weren’t able to contribute to our transition from SBNation’s network to an autonomous and independent, new version of The Mane Land, you can thank the folks on our founders page, because without them, we wouldn’t be here. And if you still want to help out, we’ve got more things on the way.

Vamos.

Michael Citro
Managing Editor

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