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Breaking Down a Potential Trade of Dom Dwyer for Darwin Quintero

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With rumors swirling of Minnesota United’s interest in Orlando City striker Dom Dwyer, as well as the claim of Darwin Quintero that the Loons have not picked up his option for 2020 (although that has apparently been refuted by the club), many believe a deal might be imminent that would send Dwyer to Minnesota and Quintero to Orlando. Right now it’s all nothing but speculation and rumor. But it’s the off-season, so…let’s talk about it! Is this a deal that would make sense for the Lions?

Both players have shown they can score double digit goals in Major League Soccer and both have worn the Designated Player tag the last couple of seasons.

Quintero completed his second season with Minnesota but seemed to fall out of favor in the latter stages of the year. He played in more games this season (30 in 2019, 27 in 2018) but started one fewer match (26 this year compared to 27 last season), and played 188 fewer minutes (2,208 as opposed to 2,396), which is just a little more than the equivalent of two fewer matches. He scored 10 goals in 2019 after netting 11 a year ago. His shots were close to identical as well, as he fired 81 shot attempts in his second MLS season after trying 78 last season. But he got more on target last year (32) than in 2019 (27). His goal, time played, and shots data is close to identical over the course of his two seasons in Minnesota.

However, the big change for Quintero came in distribution. Quintero assisted on 15 goals in 2018 for an offense that scored 49 times in total. But this season he registered only five assists for an offense that scored 52 goals. A drop-off of double digit assists in the era of the hockey assist is curious.

Meanwhile, Dwyer had his worst goal-scoring season since 2013, when he netted two goals in 16 appearances with Sporting Kansas City. He finished the season with seven goals and four assists in 27 appearances, which seems a huge drop-off after finding the net 13 times in 26 games a year ago. And it is a big drop, but when you consider that he started 16 times compared to 25 last season, and played 630 fewer minutes, a big chunk of that production drop can be explained.

What can’t be explained is the higher-than-expected rate of missed sitters Dwyer had in 2019. Whether it was a lack of confidence due to coming off the bench more, trying to do too much to show he should be a regular starter, off-field distractions — don’t condemn me for this, but I spent eight months during my wife’s last pregnancy as a nervous wreck and it absolutely messed with my concentration and everyday life — or something else, Dwyer wasn’t his normal, reliable self. While he’s always been streaky and he’s always missed some sitters, you could typically also count on him to stick somewhere between a dozen and 16 balls into the back of the net over the course of a season.

On the other hand, despite a drop in minutes, Dwyer provided four assists in 2019 — the second most of his career. He had five assists in 2017, with one before his arrival in Orlando and four more after being paired up top with Cyle Larin. The Larin-Dwyer pair we wanted to see never materialized in 2018 because of how the Canadian engineered his exit from the club (and the club has its share of blame for that happening as well, but I digress).

So, when you look at the last two seasons the math gives you these sums:

  • Quintero: 57 games played, 53 starts, 4,604 minutes, 21 goals, 20 assists, 159 shots, 59 shots on goal, 52 fouls committed, 23 offside calls, and eight yellow cards.
  • Dwyer: 53 games played, 41 starts, 3,858 minutes, 20 goals, four assists, 144 shots, 62 shots on goal, 80 fouls committed, 56 offside calls, 16 yellow cards and one red card.

What we can take from those numbers is that Quintero is a much better setup man. The two have scored about the same number of goals, with Quintero needing more minutes and shots to get there. Dwyer is more likely to be called for offside, commit a foul, or go in the book.

Why Orlando City Should Consider the Deal

The biggest pro for both is a fresh start for the players. If each guy gets a second wind from the deal, it’ll be good for Dwyer and Quintero. Orlando fans will enjoy Quintero’s more consistent play and the added dimension he brings in setting up others. A fresh face is usually a popular one unless the new guy struggles, so any residual anger some fans feel for Dwyer after his 2019 scoring slump would turn into a more positive vibe — at least in the short term.

Being a Colombian, Quintero might have a better understanding of how some of his teammates (Sebas Mendez, for example) want to play and his style might better suit working with Nani. He’d be better at providing for guys like Tesho Akindele, Chris Mueller, Benji Michel, and Santiago Patino.

Why Orlando City Shouldn’t Consider the Deal

If this is a straight-up, one-for-one trade, it might not be in the best interest of OCSC. For starters, Quintero will turn 33 during the 2020 season. Dom will turn 30 in late July. While Dwyer has shown that he can be susceptible to injuries, there’s not a huge gap in games played between the two, so I wouldn’t even make that a consideration. Some fans want a bigger striker because Dwyer is often dwarfed by the opposing team’s center backs. Quintero is listed as being four inches shorter than Dwyer.

Quintero made $1.75 million in guaranteed salary this past season. Dwyer made $1.5 million. Orlando would be giving up a quarter million dollars more in salary (although nothing extra against the cap if swapping one DP for another) by trading forwards with Minnesota. At least there would be no need for an international slot, as Quintero has received his green card. If the plan is to buy down Dwyer/Quintero with allocation money, you’re probably better off with the less expensive guy.

Dwyer showed signs of finally busting his slump late in the season, scoring two goals and adding an assist in his final three matches of 2019. He fired 11 shots with seven on target in those three games. Quintero, on the other hand, scored only two goals in his last eight appearances and they both came in the same game.

If Dwyer returns to his usual numbers — perhaps not DP numbers in today’s MLS but pretty strong — and Quintero continues to slide, there would be a lot of upset folks in the stands of Exploria Stadium after such a trade.

Mitigating Circumstances that Could Make the Deal Better/Worse

Any deal between the two teams could change drastically depending on whether any other assets are involved. That could be in the form of players, draft picks, allocation money, an international slot, allocation ranking, etc. A straight-up trade would seem fairly even financially and we’ve already seen that it wouldn’t necessarily be lopsided on the production side. But whoever gets the other team to throw in additional assets could come out on the right end of such a trade.


Ultimately, if a deal is struck, Quintero might be a good addition to Orlando and he might even provide more offense than Dwyer. However, if the Lions are going to get older and shorter up front, this can’t be the final move the club should make up top this off-season. Just as Dwyer may more of a prototypical MLS 2.0 striker than an MLS 3.0 striker, Quintero also may not be the answer. If the club is going to find its own Carlos Vela/Zlatan Ibrahimovic/Josef Martinez type, neither guy is one of those. However, Quintero would seem a better fit in a three-man front opposite Nani with one of those Vela/Zlatan/Martinez types in the middle.

Whether the next coach is Oscar Pareja or someone else, they might have their own opinion on whether or not they’d rather work with Dwyer or Quintero. That’s something else to keep in mind if nothing happens in this two-day trade window. This could always happen later after the new coach is in place and has had time to review his squad.

Right now, we haven’t heard of anything being imminent, but things can move suddenly and quickly when the trade window is open. We’ll see what happens if this kind of deal comes to pass. For now, I just thought it would be fun to look at the numbers to see what it might look like if a deal gets done.

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A Few Words About the Future of The Mane Land

TML needs help to continue bringing you coverage of Orlando City, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and all things soccer related in the City Beautiful.

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For the last 11 years, The Mane Land has worked hard to provide daily content telling the story of Orlando City SC, the Orlando Pride, OCB, and any other soccer-related events we can get to in the Central Florida area. We love doing that, but we’re at a critical stage in being able to do so. Staff has been difficult to replace in recent years, and we’ve come to a point where some of us have not only been stretched to an unsustainable limit, but we’ve been going at that rate for multiple years without a break.

To that point, TML is now at a critical juncture where we must have more contributors who can cover live events in order to survive in our current format (and possibly at all). For the past few years, we have had only two primary game night writers covering three teams, and we are unable to continue at that pace, regardless of how much we enjoy doing it.

To continue as an entity, we’re going to need anywhere from two to four new contributors who can pitch in with game-night coverage of Orlando City/Orlando Pride matches. Additionally, another copy editor is essential, while two more would be preferred.

We’d like to continue into 2026, but if we can’t get the additional help we need, the current plan is to shut down at the end of the 2025 calendar year. The minimum we need to carry on would be two new live event writers and a copy editor.

What does this mean? Well, if you’ve ever thought it would be cool to cover soccer matches (it is) or thought about joining us, now is the time to volunteer. If you enjoy soccer and talking about this club with your friends, you might be perfect for our team, because if you can talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Writing is just talking on a screen with your fingers, after all.

To get started, please write to us at themaneland@gmail.com and let us know how you’d like to contribute — writing, editing, etc.

It is important to note that we do this out of a love for the beautiful game and these positions are on a voluntary basis. However, if freed from the shackles of such an overwhelming schedule, my goal is to spend more time creating strategic partnerships and promoting our membership platform that could combine to bring in revenue that would go toward compensating staff writers. Additionally, some of our staff members have gone on to more financially rewarding opportunities as a result of their time with us. You never know what this experience will lead to. Like anything else in life, you’re likely to get out of it what you put in.

The good news is that we have already reached out to our Founders and our Buy Me a Coffee subscribers about this subject, and several have shown an interest in helping, so we are in the process of exploring those potential contributors at the moment.

We Are Currently Seeking:

  • Match writers – You don’t need a degree in journalism or English to write for us. If you like to talk about soccer, you can probably write about it as well. Staff writers contribute regularly to our game coverage, which could be in the form of recaps, player grades pieces, five takeaways posts, etc. We have a need for this on both the Orlando City and Pride sides, and you can do both if you want. If you’re not local to the Orlando area, you can cover road matches via the broadcast/stream.
  • Editors – Can you spot a subject/verb disagreement from a mile away? An editor position may be for you! How often do you get to correct people without anyone shaming you for it? This position will edit copy for submitted stories, make headlines punchier and more SEO-friendly, and ensure the story has a properly cropped/centered photo that helps tell the story. Typically you’ll only be on “desk duty” one or two evenings per week when it fits your schedule. You may also write stories if you wish!

About TML

Our little blog became an idea and then an independent WordPress site in late September of 2014, and went live on SBNation in December of that year. When SBNation stopped funding nearly all of its MLS blogs a few years ago, we went independent again, and we’ve long been the only outlet providing daily coverage of Orlando City’s teams. Even the club doesn’t post new content to its website every day!


FAQ

Why shutter the site at the end of December? Why do you need help now when the season doesn’t start for a couple of months?

Preparing to cover three teams requires advance planning. Each year, we put together a publication schedule to ensure all our bases are covered. This includes what will run (a placeholder or sometimes the specific piece) on every day of the year, which obviously doesn’t take into account breaking news or extra features that people want to do. Setting up this publication schedule also includes noting when major soccer events are coming, known USMNT/USWNT scheduled matches, MLS and NWSL deadlines, player birthdays, important milestones and anniversaries, and more. We also put together volunteer sign-up sheets for grades and takeaways posts. That setup work is all for naught if we don’t have the bodies to physically cover the team when the season starts. Also, it’s easier to pull the plug on our LLC at the end of a calendar year. None of us want to stop, but we have to be realistic about being able to continue covering the team as we have.

Why not just scale back and cover what you can? Do you have to cover every game?

I don’t have a good answer for this other than I would not feel right about putting my name on a product I don’t believe in. I don’t ever want our audience to have to guess whether or not they’re getting a game recap or any follow-up analysis from a given match. In my opinion, we have never had the personnel to fully provide what I envision. For example, I want to add more video content, player grades and recaps for the Pride games, and to bring back weekend Lion Links and OCB match previews. And we should have a lot more features and analysis pieces! In short, we’re already doing the bare minimum that I’m comfortable with. And, I have to be honest: if there was a game coming up with no one to cover it, knowing me, I’d probably just do it myself, and I already know I can’t continue the pace of the past few years. I have to save me from myself sometimes.

Could The Mane Land continue in a different form?

I have toyed with the idea of turning TML into a newsletter. This might be a daily that includes a Lion Links-type section and opinion/analysis of club news. It would not include match coverage or any kind of regular news. I almost pivoted to that when SBNation stopped funding us, but we decided to make a go of it as an independent outlet. The problem with the newsletter style is that I can’t do it daily every single day or it would be no different than the situation I’m in, so some help would still be needed. Some of that could come from the current TML staff, but I’m not sure all of it could, and the newsletter format is not for everyone, so we’d be leaving part of our audience behind. I’m not sure it’s the way to go.

Is new management or investment needed?

Possibly. I am willing to sell the name and logo and turn over all our passwords for someone else to take over the operations, which would free up a considerable amount of my time. I’m even willing to continue on as a writing and editing contributor, because I love covering the club. Some of the other staff might as well. But I would not be interested in covering every single match. I’m not a kid anymore, and I have a regular job, a family, and other side gigs that require my attention.

Will you still do the podcasts if the site shuts down?

No. I think if we decide to shut down, it will be across the board. I much prefer our written content, and that’s the reason I started our outlet to begin with. I feel the podcasts complement our coverage and give us more of an opinion platform and a way to discuss matches in a deeper, richer way, but I’m not interested in doing only the podcasts. That said, others on our staff might want to continue and I’m OK with that.


Contact us at themaneland@gmail.com today to get started as a new contributor!

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PawedCast Episode 506: Cincinnati Rewind, OCB-Carolina Core, Columbus Preview, and More

The Lions claimed a late draw at Cincy and now host Columbus while OCB’s playoff hopes hang by a thread.

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Orlando City left it late again. Tyrese Spicer reprised his role from the Nashville game by providing the assist for a goal late in stoppage time, but this time it was a different goal scorer and a road draw instead of a home win. Alex Freeman played great against FC Cincinnati, so it was fitting that he literally pulled a point out of thin air on a Sunday night that saw the Lions squander numerous good opportunities to score while allowing the hosts only one Kevin Denkey strike.

We look back at the key moments, players, and plays of a critical road match, check our score predictions, and make our selections for Man of the Match, splitting the vote

This week’s mailbagbox asked us a pair of trivia questions and added an individual question for each host. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.

OCB got two points at Carolina Core FC when it needed three, but it did enough to stay alive in the postseason race but there is no margin for error. The Young Lions fell behind by two goals, battled back to get level, conceded again, and once again equalized on the road. Carlos Mercado then helped his team win the penalty shootout on his birthday to claim the extra point. OCB must beat FC Cincinnati 2 on Sunday at home and get help to reach the postseason.

Finally, Orlando City returns home with another game against a good team from the Buckeye State, as the Columbus Crew visits Inter&Co Stadium on Saturday. Whether Diego Rossi plays or not, the Crew are always a difficult opponent. We break down the series history, look at the battle ahead, provide our key matchups, and make our predictions for the final score.

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Here’s how No. 506 went down:

0:15 – Orlando City didn’t seem to want to put the ball in the net, but maybe that’s because it wasn’t yet the death of stoppage time. Earlier goals are OK too, guys!

27:55 – The mailbagbox offers trivia, but no prizes if we get them right.

39:11 – OCB was listening to Meat Loaf and thinking two out of three ain’t bad, and the senior Lions prepare for Columbus.

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PawedCast Episode 502: Galaxy Rewind, Ramiro Enrique Transfer News, OCB Defeats Crown Legacy, and More

Lions leave Leagues Cup empty handed, Ramiro Enrique could be on the move soon, OCB gets a vital win, and more

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I couldn’t tell you why this show is nearly an hour other than the fact that we are verbose. Orlando City crashed out of Leagues Cup with back-to-back losses in games that had a Concacaf Champions Cup berth on the line. The Lions did almost nothing in the first half against the LA Galaxy on the road, and threw Martin Ojeda’s second-half equalizer away just seven minutes after he scored it with a horrendous turnover in their defensive third.

We discuss Orlando City’s 2-1 road loss, which featured one of Pedro Gallese’s best-ever saves as a Lion, although it ultimately didn’t matter much, looked back at our score predictions, and made our selections for Man of the Match.

We also discussed Seattle’s 3-0 win over Inter Miami in the final and the shenanigans that the Herons pulled after losing.

Ramiro Enrique was not in uniform Sunday night in the wake of reports that he’s about to be sold for a reported $3 million to a Saudi team. Although the timing isn’t perfect, it would be a good return for the Argentine striker.

This week’s mailbagbox asked about ice cream, donuts, Carlos Mercado vs. Javier Otero, and more. Remember, if there’s anything — and we do mean anything — you want us to address on the show, just ask us by tweeting it to us at @TheManeLand with the hashtag #AskTMLPC, or hitting us up on Bluesky Social with that same hashtag.

OCB picked up a much-needed three points with a home win over Crown Legacy at the death that nearly immediately became a draw at the even more death. Mercado was sensational in the match for the Young Lions and Thalles scored the timely goal to push the club over the playoff line for the time being. I nearly started to preview an OCB game that is more than a week ago, but the important thing is I stopped myself, otherwise the show would have been even longer.

The senior Lions are also off this week, so we’ll see you next week!

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Here’s how No. 502 went down:

0:15 – Orlando City looked to be following the same script as in the win at LA back in March, but then coughed up the ball in a dangerous spot to one of the Galaxy’s best scorers.

29:36 – The mailbagbox is trying to make us fat(ter).

46:38 – OCB has put together two consecutive late wins as the Young Lions try to get back into playoff contention after several rough weeks.

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